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| Lele | Thursday 10th of March 2005 04:02:03 PM |
| Diptote/Triptote nouns - HELP!!! The rule about diptote and triptote nouns in driving me absolutely crazy!!!!
Can anybody explain me how to discriminate the 2 kind of nouns? Thanks so much in advance! | |
| hamid18 | Thursday 24th of March 2005 05:21:42 AM |
| it's like this - if you're talking about the rules for making a noun "two" or "three+" then it's simple:
when you want to make a single noun into it's dual form you add "ان" (or "تان" if it's feminine) at the END of the noun when you want to make a single/dual noun into it's plural form then you add "ون" (or "ات" if it's feminine) at the END of the noun | |
| Lele | Thursday 24th of March 2005 03:21:50 PM |
| Shukran!! - Thanks alot for your great help. This is a partial answer to my question. Another thing I'd like to know is: there are names like "nafidha" (window) which have only 2 cases in singular and other names like "Muhammad" that have 3 cases (Muhammadun, Muhammadan, Muhammadin). How can I tell which cathegory a name belongs?
Sorry for bugging with those details, but we are studying classic standard Arabic and the cases are important, even if I know that in spoken language is not so important. Thanks again for your patience.... Regards, | |
| Hana | Thursday 24th of March 2005 04:03:49 PM |
| Poor you - It's me again. So far I know that dipotes and triptotes are indistinguishable. You just have to learn that they are like that. No other rule. Maybe while my learning moves on I'll know more. Now I know only that you have to learn diptotes by heart, that's all.
Take care, | |
| hamid18 | Friday 25th of March 2005 04:47:22 AM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by Lele[/i]
Thanks alot for your great help. This is a partial answer to my question. Another thing I'd like to know is: there are names like "nafidha" (window) which have only 2 cases in singular and other names like "Muhammad" that have 3 cases (Muhammadun, Muhammadan, Muhammadin). How can I tell which cathegory a name belongs? Sorry for bugging with those details, but we are studying classic standard Arabic and the cases are important, even if I know that in spoken language is not so important. Thanks again for your patience.... Regards,[/quote]i believe the name for this is "Tanween" where the consonant sounds are "doubled". kasra ِ becomes kasratainٍ damma ُ becomes dammatainٌ fatha َ becomes fathatainً i believe the tanween is only used with nouns when they don't have the definite article "al" ال or show possesion. dammatain is used at the end of the word to make it a name. i'm not too sure about the cases for kasratain and fathatain. i'll have to check some of my old books. | |
| Hana | Friday 25th of March 2005 04:53:59 AM |
| To hamid18 - Sorry to say that, but the thing that you are describing is completely different from the one lele was asking for. He wanted to know somethin about nouns which have only two cases. | |
| Lele | Saturday 26th of March 2005 01:13:21 PM |
| Shukran to all - My thanks both to Hamid and to Hana...
Now I know all I can do is... memorize memorize memorize! Thanks for the help! :) :) :) :) | |
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