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QltoWednesday 16th of March 2005 01:05:39 AM
Dutch learning - people who want to learn dutch should write here. Also people who can teach dutch or just want to share some good ideas about how to make learning easier.GOOD LUCK!
Ive just started learning dutch and any help will do for me.
opheliaWednesday 16th of March 2005 01:28:11 AM
- I like that idea, it would be really good. I've only just started too.
QltoWednesday 16th of March 2005 01:39:09 AM
- good then(: its better to learn together, couse its more simple to unravel all the obscurities that can be met on our learning way(; Goedeavond!
i have a question for you or just anybody who could answer that. I know a few rules of pronouncing like g=chei (with that difficult snore sound) etc, but i discovered that st sometimes(or maybe always) becomes sh and s(like in spreek) becomes sh too, but not always...i would like to find out that 'sh' thing.when do we say s and when sh.
LusiWednesday 16th of March 2005 02:07:42 AM
dutch grammar - Hi there!
I'm learning dutch as well an it took me a lot of time to search info in internet.Finaly i found very usefull dutch grammar.But the most important thing according to me is to start speaking.i have this difficulty right now - I can write quite well but in the moment I have to start talking - everything dissapears:o)
So - here's my suggestion for dutch-fans:
http://www.gnomjas.nl/html/dutch/
GijsWednesday 16th of March 2005 03:58:14 AM
some help... - Hallo!

Some information about the letters G and SCH

I guess you were already at the pronunciation page?
[url]www.phrasebase.c../../discuss/read.php?TID=1418[/url]

The g with the difficult snore-sound.
The sch is the same as the g but pronounced with an 's' on front of it. So you can think of it as
sg [color=red] But it's never spelled this way[/color]

Voorbeeld: (example)

Schep (shovel) *so it is pronounced like [i]sgep[/i]*
schaar (scissors) *[i]sgaar[/i]*
schilderij (painting) *[i]sgilderij[/i]*

st is not a special combination.

We have some adopted french words like Douche.

Here the combination che is pronounced as the english [i]sh[/i]
In other languages often written as Š or Ş

But don't worry to much about words with this lettercombination, because there are quite rare in Dutch

Succes!

Pls,don't hesitate to ask me if you've questions.
Tot ziens!

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Special for Qlto: [/color]
An online dictionairy Dutch/Lithuanian.
[url]www.elona.nl/nl/taal/woordenboek.php[/url]
sėkmes ir mokytis į sveikatą!;)

Peter fra LAWednesday 16th of March 2005 04:21:38 AM
- Welcome to phrasebase,

I'm going to move your post into the Dutch discuss. Be sure to check out the other posts there as well. Alexis has put up a lot of good resources you can use.


QltoWednesday 16th of March 2005 06:27:57 PM
- Thank you for supporting so much! Thank you'language user' for useful info too!Ive already checked that pronunciation page and learned first two chapters(: i also discovered another page of dutch pronunciation http://www.learndutch.org/Lesson1/index.html but i think its not so good, couse the records are very unclear...i would like to know your opinion about that page.Can i learn from it?
QltoWednesday 16th of March 2005 06:34:32 PM
- and one more question. Does the dutch language you speak in Netherlands differ a lot from the belgian dutch? Can i learn watching Belgian tv programmes( from Brussels or Antwerpen )?
lowenguardWednesday 16th of March 2005 08:27:26 PM
- Hey Qlto,

I checked the link http://www.learndutch.org/Lesson1/index.html just now.
The site tells the story of a guy who wants to open a restaurant in comic form with pictures and text balloons. After each picture they ask questions about what is happening, for you to practise and there are also ome tests you can do.
You can find audio files and translation to every sentence or vocab word. The sound file quality is not that bad actually. But my main objections about the site is that navigation isn't easy and you'll need some knowledge of Dutch to beign with. It is pretty much unusable for a beginner because they don't address the grammatical rules.
It's a nice effort though...

And second, there are little differences between Dutch and Flemish, spoken in Belgium. First the pronounciation is much smoother in Flemish, they avoid hard sounds like the 'G' (as is the case in the southern parts of Holland too). And second, I don't know much about this, but where the Dutch use derived foreign words from English and other languages like 'lift', the Belgiums have invented Dutch alternatives for it... maybe it would be fun to sum some of these up here??
But to return to your original question, you can watch Belgium tv and learn the language, no problem!!

Good luck, y'all learning Dutch!


niki112beSunday 20th of March 2005 11:27:28 PM
- You can watch short videos from Belgian tv programmes on [url]http://www.een.be/televisie1_master/home/e_homepage/index.shtml[/url]
SkellingtonThursday 14th of April 2005 04:30:05 AM
Total newbie - I'm new at this... posting here. I would like to know how can i do to start learning dutch. If maybe anybody would be kind enough to give me some guidelines i'd sure apreciate that. I know dutch pronunciation, and also some words and phrases... but i need to start learning seriously.
Thanks!
aaronwierThursday 28th of April 2005 05:21:06 PM
Ik ben Aaron - Hoe gaat het. Ik ben aaron en ik woon in brisbane, Australie. ik spreek een beetje nederlands. Mijn vader en oom geboren in Haarlem, maar mijn oom woont in Utrecht. naast jaar ik ga voor vakantie, leuk he! Mijn hobbies zijn: computers, ik speel gitaar en fietsen. op negen mai ik begin de les in het nederlands taal.

Doei!


Sorry the grammar is off i'm sure. my father and uncle are dutch and i am very interested in dutch culture and love the language. unfortunately he doesn't talk that much with me in dutch, but hopefully this will change soon :-)
please feel free to Classroom with me or email or whatever


Groeten van Aaron