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maddersThursday 30th of September 2004 03:21:20 PM
Beginner... *hides* - Salut,

I just decided to start learning Romanian... for no reason, really, other than it looked interesting. Oh, and my sister (who I disown for her love of pop) listens to O-Zone, and I got really sick of those stupid catchy songs being in my head, and me not knowing what on EARTH they were singing about.

So, I went down to the library, and got out a few books on Romanian- but cannot find any textbooks/workbooks/etc.

I've printed off all the posts in this discuss, and have started to make my OWN textbook, but I need a few more verbs, fully conjugated.

I remember reading a post by one of the mods saying that perhaps they could post a few verbs a week... could that possibly go ahead?

Apart from that, I just need random vocab. I speak Italian and French, so am picking the language up fairly quickly- grammar rules and all- but I need more vocabulary to practice with.

Thanks all- good luck.
AlexThursday 30th of September 2004 06:58:29 PM
Welcome - Hi, and Welcome to Phrasebase.

Răzvan is the man with the grammar books. Hopefully he will find the time to continue his fine work.

Meantime, however, you should get an English/Romanian dictionary, and join me in Classroom most weeknights starting at 9PM EST or Weekends usually starting at 9AM EST

La revedere.

Alex.
maddersThursday 30th of September 2004 08:39:17 PM
- Yeah, I really need to find one... they didn't have one at my local library, so hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to locate a bookshop that sells them/could order one in for me. Any particular recommendations for brands of foreign-language dictionaries?

Looking forward to getting to jabber in Romanian at someone other than a random member of my family who has no idea what I'm saying!
odiliaFriday 01st of October 2004 02:36:45 AM
roMania :) - yeah, that's how it starts :) i also don't listen pop very often but i was in Romania this summer and it was all around this O-Zone song .. and later when I came back to Bulgaria it was already there, too . and again I decided I should know what's this telling about ... :)
so, I'm mostly a web learner and I recently posted some links about dictionaries and grammar in the "Romanian Verbs" topic - you can go and check it, Alex said it's good. other useful resources online I have found are:
http://www.diseara.ro/templates/dre.php3 - very good online ro-en-ro dictionary
http://dictionary.phprebel.org/ - from and to romanian, multilingual (FR, SP, IT, EN, RU and others). it returns mostly phrases and you can search phrases but not quite easy to use in my opinion. requires registration but free to limited searches
http://www.castingsnet.com/dictionaries/ - it's the best online dictionary i have found . combining with the first one usually gives a good coverage of the searched topic
http://www.geocities.com/email_theguy/rromanian.htm - gives some basic grammar things, a good page for "just beginners"

The Webster's online and Wikipedia are good starting points to learn sth more about the country, culture and language in general if you are interested :)
Further searching http://seelrc.org/webliography/romanian.ptml can give you more directions to explore I guess ...

-best
Odilia
maddersFriday 01st of October 2004 02:57:02 AM
- Thankyou! I'll check those out ^_^

And isn't that song catchy? I get it stuck in my head for days in a row...
odiliaFriday 01st of October 2004 06:34:54 AM
o-zone ... - yes it is :)
but from their songs i like best Oriunde Ai Fi and De Ce Plang Chitarele. Despre Tine and Numai Tu are not bad but you should hear Nu Ma Las De Limba Noastra, which is a bit different in my opinion - maybe kind of a traditional music influenced ...
don't i sound just like a fan ?? :)))
AlexFriday 01st of October 2004 06:31:56 PM
Oriunde ai fi - The words of this song are by far more worthwhile translating.

This here is a love song.

Alex.
odiliaSaturday 02nd of October 2004 06:51:54 AM
Oriunde Ai Fi - yes, i'm already trying although it's really difficult ... i'll show you the result for comments if i end it up successfully .. but just don't laugh at me too much :))
rcdelossantosSunday 03rd of October 2004 09:15:13 PM
RE: O-Zone - yes, Dragostea Din Tei is on the C 89.5 FM radio station here in Seattle, WA USA all the time! i love that song and can't get enough of it! ;-)



[quote]Originally posted by madders


Salut,

I just decided to start learning Romanian... for no reason, really, other than it looked interesting. Oh, and my sister (who I disown for her love of pop) listens to O-Zone, and I got really sick of those stupid catchy songs being in my head, and me not knowing what on EARTH they were singing about.

So, I went down to the library, and got out a few books on Romanian- but cannot find any textbooks/workbooks/etc.

I've printed off all the posts in this discuss, and have started to make my OWN textbook, but I need a few more verbs, fully conjugated.

I remember reading a post by one of the mods saying that perhaps they could post a few verbs a week... could that possibly go ahead?

Apart from that, I just need random vocab. I speak Italian and French, so am picking the language up fairly quickly- grammar rules and all- but I need more vocabulary to practice with.

Thanks all- good luck.[/quote]
maddersSunday 03rd of October 2004 10:14:05 PM
- Have you heard Despre Tine yet?

It's EXACTLY the same backing music, just with different words and a few little extras.

And the clip amuses me ^_^

God, I NEVER would've thought *I* would be discussing pop music with people... *grin*
linkerroMonday 04th of October 2004 04:07:39 AM
- Ok, I'm romanian, and right about now I'm thinking about leaving this discuss (just joking). Anyway, the lyrics on the O-zone tracks realy suck if you get to understand what they mean, so my advice: look for something else to listen to. If you find romanian music so intrusting try listening to Parazitzii. They're not exactly my favorites becouse theyr lyrics are quite explicit at times, but are probaly the most whitty romanian lyrics in reacent years.
odiliaMonday 04th of October 2004 06:03:53 AM
ro songs - how bout some links ? :D
you can also mail them ...
maddersMonday 04th of October 2004 03:18:31 PM
- I was waiting for this kind of response... :D

Yeah, the music's pretty bad too. But it's the first Romanian music I'd heard, and it's so bouncy... and my sister plays it NON STOP.

But thanks, I'll go check them out now! What kind of music are there? Is there a big rock music scene in Romania?
jeuphonyFriday 15th of October 2004 04:42:05 PM
- You all will probably laugh at me for this, but I saw the movie Escaflowne for the first time the other day and I fell in love with a song called "Sora". When I looked up the lyrics, it said that they were in ancient Romanian. Is that true? If so, Romanian is definately one of the most beautiful languages I have heard. And it is a romance language? So my Spanish and French background may aid in learning it?
rbrumaSunday 17th of October 2004 11:44:31 PM
- Ancient Romanian? I don't know the song, but there's no such thing as ancient Romanian. It might be, perhaps, in some old Romanian slang, but the differences between that and present day language should be minimal (the way, for example, Shakespeare is to modern English).

And yes, it's a Romance language, and your French and Spanish background is a definite plus, although the language most closely related to Romanian is Italian.

Răzvan
sandmanTuesday 30th of November 2004 02:47:23 AM
music - if you're looking for some better music in romanian you definitely should listen to zdob si zdub.
they started as a hardcore band, but turned to ethnic music and it was great
their style is hard to describe - ethno-alt-rock-...
you should really listen them to get what i mean...
agroromantica and 450 de oi are their best albums, imho
check the http://www.zdob-si-zdub.com
the site has 3 versions - romanian/russian/english
and in the "media" section you can get introductive samples of the songs
SalutMinetThursday 02nd of December 2004 07:50:59 PM
- Just wanted to thank you guys for all the links up there...I'm just now starting to learn some stuff, and those helped me a lot too! :)
odiliaTuesday 07th of December 2004 05:54:28 AM
Zdob si Zdub - ha ha, i remember when i was in Romania this summer one of the first things we had presented as an 'original romanian dancing' was DJ Vasile !! lol .. we had a great fun jumping with it and i was very happy later when i found it on the net. but rest of Zdob si Zdub i managed to find didn't seem to be that good ...
tripledddogTuesday 07th of December 2004 04:41:00 PM
cheesy music - It might be cheesy but it helps me learn....

Oriunde ai fi, eu te voi gasi
Wherever you are, I will find you

Oriunde ai fi, eu te voi iubii
Werever you go, I will love you

I love it, thanks for all the posts everyone