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DuffieWednesday 22nd of December 2004 04:27:52 PM
Puedes ayudarme - En Ingles...
I'm in Spanish 2 at my school, and I'm progressing very fast...too fast...and I don't want to stop. My teacher has to go very slowly because others in my class just don't dig the language scene. Anyway, we haven't gotten to the Past Tense yet, and it is completely irritating me. Can someone give me a quick explanation of basic past tense conjugations? At least some major verbs; ie. tener, hacer, ir, ver, estar, ser.

Muchas Gracias!

(I tried here because other guides... kind of quirky/incomplete)
AnyaWednesday 22nd of December 2004 04:48:18 PM
- Hola Duffie!
Que bueno que te gusta aprender las lenguas, a mi me gusta tambien.
Español no es mi lengua primera, pero trato a ayudarte con esos verbos en los tiempos pasados. Maryam puede ayudar mejor. Here are two tenses to get you started:

TENER (pretérito) "had"
yo tuve       nosotros tuvimos
tu tuviste       vosotros tuvisteis
el/ella tuvo       ellos tuvieron

TENER (pretérito anterior) "have had"
hube tenido       hubimos tenido
hubiste tenido       hubisteis tenido
hubo tenido       hubieron tenido

HACER (pretérito) "done"
hice       hicimos
hiciste       hicisteis
hizo       hicieron


HACER (pretérito anterior) "have done"
hube hecho       hubimos hecho
hubiste hecho       hubisteis hecho
hubo hecho       hubieron hecho


IR (pretérito) "went"
fui       fuimos
fuiste       fuisteis
fue       fueron


IR (pretérito anterior) "have gone"
hube ido       hubimos ido
hubiste ido       hubisteis ido
hubo ido       hubieron ido


VER (pretérito) "saw"
vi        vimos
viste       visteis
vio       vieron


VER (pretérito anterior) "have seen"
hube visto       hubimos visto
hubiste visto       hubisteis visto
hubo visto       hubieron visto


ESTAR (pretérito)
estuve       estuvimos
estuviste       estuvisteis
estuvo       estuvieron


ESTAR (pretérito anterior) "have been" (condition)
hube estado       hubimos estado
hubiste estado       hubisteis estado
hubo estado       hubieron estado


SER (pretérito)
fui       fuimos
fuiste       fuisteis
fue       fueron


SER (pretérito anterior) "have been" (occupation, description)
hube sido       hubimos sido
hubiste sido       hubisteis sido
hubo sido       hubieron sido


Although you picked irregular verbs, I think you can see a pattern in these two tenses. Hope this helps!

DuffieWednesday 22nd of December 2004 04:49:33 PM
- Muchas Gracias!

-I think we can speak in English now-

That helps a great deal, thank you so very very much! I kinda see the pattern now :-D
chinita96Wednesday 22nd of December 2004 05:04:26 PM
Irregular Verbs - Well, as for a quick explanation of a basic past tense conjugation.... the verbs you have listed here are Irregular Verbs. There isn't a rule to follow, you just have to know them. I haven't practiced Spanish in a while, but I did get a Minors Certificate at a University. So here goes:

Tener
yo tuve
tú tuviste
él tuvo
nosotros tuvimos
vosotros tuvisteis
ellos tuvieron

Hacer
yo hice
tú hiciste
él hizo
nosotros hicimos
vosotros hicisteis
ellos hicieron

Ir
yo fui
tú fuiste
él fue
nosotros fuimos
vosotros fuisteis
ellos fueron

Ver
yo vi
tú viste
él vio
nosotros vimos
vosotros visteis
ellos vieron

Estar
yo estuve
tú estuviste
él estuvo
nosotros estuvimos
vosotros estuvisteis
ellos estuvieron

Ser
yo fui
tú fuiste
él fue
nosotros fuimos
vosotros fuisteis
ellos fueron

A good website to visit if you´re interested in more conjugations:
http://www.verbix.c../../languages/spanish.shtml

It's been a while since I've conjugated those :P
tinkerbWednesday 22nd of December 2004 05:33:53 PM
-

Just wanted to add a note about the preterit anterior. I can't speak for Castillian Spanish (from Spain) but in Latin America those tenses are most frequently found in literary Spanish.

In daily spoken and written Spanish you would see the pluscamperfecto (I think I got the Spelling right) which consists of two steps.

The first is the conjugation of "haber" in the imperfect:

había, habías, había, habíamos, habían

The second consists of the past participle, which for the listed verbs would be:

tenido, hecho, ido, visto, estado, sido

These translate into the English as:

había tenido--I (or he/she) had had
habías hecho--you had done/made
habíamos ido--we had gone
habían visto--they/y'all had seen

I teach through the first three semesters of Spanish (Latin American) at the university level, so feel free to ask and/or post if you have more questions.
MaryamThursday 23rd of December 2004 11:58:41 AM
- That´s right Tinkerb, and although some forms of the Pretérito are mostly used on that area for literary style, the thing is that the pretérito has evolved alot in Spain. Just in 1958, which can´t be considered too far in gramatical senses, the "pretérito simple" was attached to the pronoun "enclítico".
For example,

Se le ocurrió (ocurriósele)
le cantó (cantóle)
le abofeteó (abofeteóle)

Incredible how this way, so literary, has disappeared little by little.



[quote]Originally posted by tinkerb




Just wanted to add a note about the preterit anterior. I can't speak for Castillian Spanish (from Spain) but in Latin America those tenses are most frequently found in literary Spanish.

In daily spoken and written Spanish you would see the pluscamperfecto (I think I got the Spelling right) which consists of two steps.

The first is the conjugation of "haber" in the imperfect:

había, habías, había, habíamos, habían

The second consists of the past participle, which for the listed verbs would be:

tenido, hecho, ido, visto, estado, sido

These translate into the English as:

había tenido--I (or he/she) had had
habías hecho--you had done/made
habíamos ido--we had gone
habían visto--they/y'all had seen

I teach through the first three semesters of Spanish (Latin American) at the university level, so feel free to ask and/or post if you have more questions.[/quote]