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TeupSaturday 09th of July 2005 12:27:21 AM
Hard and soft g's / k's - Ok so in this [url=http://web.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm#pronunciation]pronounciation guide[/url] that you'll all know by now, they say g's and k's are pronounced the soft way (ie. j'ish and sh'ish) before the ö, and hard before the o.
But, I noticed these two on Swedish radio (I had the text along with it):

Kön (as in: definite version of kö) with a HARD k
Gotaland with a SOFT g

How's that possible? How about: köpa, köra, how are they pronounced? My guess would be the first hard, the latter soft, but I have really no idea. Maybe anyone has any other examples as well?
bluehipopotamoSaturday 09th of July 2005 12:33:30 AM
- [quote]Originally posted by Teup


Ok so in this [url=http://web.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm#pronunciation]pronounciation guide[/url] that you'll all know by now, they say g's and k's are pronounced the soft way (ie. j'ish and sh'ish) before the ö, and hard before the o.
But, I noticed these two on Swedish radio (I had the text along with it):

Kön (as in: definite version of kö) with a HARD k
Gotaland with a SOFT g

How's that possible? How about: köpa, köra, how are they pronounced? My guess would be the first hard, the latter soft, but I have really no idea. Maybe anyone has any other examples as well?[/quote]
i think köpa and köra are both pronounced with a soft k. that's how i've always pronounced them, ch-öra, ch-öpa...
HoogardSunday 10th of July 2005 08:40:45 PM
- [quote]Originally posted by Teup


Ok so in this [url=http://web.hhs.se/isa/swedish/chap9.htm#pronunciation]pronounciation guide[/url] that you'll all know by now, they say g's and k's are pronounced the soft way (ie. j'ish and sh'ish) before the ö, and hard before the o.
But, I noticed these two on Swedish radio (I had the text along with it):

Kön (as in: definite version of kö) with a HARD k
Gotaland with a SOFT g

How's that possible? How about: köpa, köra, how are they pronounced? My guess would be the first hard, the latter soft, but I have really no idea. Maybe anyone has any other examples as well?[/quote]

It's actually spelled Götaland (sweden is divided into thre major regions; Norrland, Svealand and Götaland in that successive order from the north. So Götaland is the southernmost part of sweden)
And since it's a Ö it's a soft wovel so it's correct.

Regarding kön. Just looking at the spelling it could be two things.

1) The definitive of queue. Kö - n
2) The definitive of gender. Kön -

The latter one is pronounced with the sch-sound while the former does not follow these rules but are pronounced with a hard K.

So there are exceptions to all rules :)
TeupSunday 10th of July 2005 09:19:30 PM
- Ah, all clear now, thanks guys :)
HoogardMonday 11th of July 2005 08:41:35 AM
- You're welcome.
MadryneaWednesday 13th of July 2005 06:31:33 AM
- The rule about the soft sounds is correct, but as in all languages, there are exceptions, some of which I'm still struggling with. :) "kö" as in "queue" is one of those. Good look with your studies!