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| Tiger | Friday 25th of August 2006 10:43:45 AM |
| Danish - How many genders are in Danish? How many cases are there in Danish? How similar is it to German? | |
| Margo_Fonteyn | Friday 25th of August 2006 08:03:49 PM |
| - Not that I am the right person to answer these questions but I\'ll try. There are 2 genders. The words can be either \"et\" or \"en\" words. \"et\" is the neutrum and \"en\" is the so called utrum. There are no cases in Danish exept for the Genitiv \"s\". This is the same as in English. I don\'t know how similar it is to German because my German is not good at all but I think it mainly is a question of similar words. I don\'t think that when it comes to grammar the similaritis are that many. | |
| Harrenys_Targaryen | Saturday 26th of August 2006 01:52:55 AM |
| - Another way of distinguishing between \"en\" and \"et\" words is to think of the former as common gender (male + female) nouns and the latter as neuters. And Margo is correct when she says that the ties between Deutsch and Dansk are rather tenuous. At least to a native English speaker such as myself, Danish word order is a noticeably different, but generally minor obstacle, whereas German syntax is tough to construct and even tougher to master. Even a few apparent cognates have their own quirks, e.g. \"Buch\" is neuter, but \"bog\" is common; \"Sprache\" is feminine, but \"sprog\" is neuter. | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 02:24:25 AM |
| - Thanks, so let me recap. There are only two genders: Male and Female. There are only two cases: Nominative, and Genitive. How ever, it\'s sentence structures are easier than German. Is that all correct? | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 02:31:25 AM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by deutsch_junge[/i] Thanks, so let me recap. There are only two genders: Male and Female. [/quote] No; Common and Neuter. [quote]There are only two cases: Nominative, and Genitive.[/quote] Danish has Nominative, Genitive, Dative and Accusative. Of which dative and accusative appear alike - as far as I know. As for nouns; genitive has an \'-s\' suffix, the other cases are covert (not visible). [quote] How ever, it\'s sentence structures are easier than German. Is that all correct?[/quote] The grammar is more similar to English, yes, in that it\'s a language which predominantly uses the order Subject-Verb-Object, which English uses. | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 02:34:44 AM |
| - So, dative and accusative are the same? | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 02:37:20 AM |
| - Yep :) Just like in English: You see [b]me[/b]. (accusative) You give [b]me[/b] a book. (dative) You give a book to [b]me[/b]. (accusative) | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 02:42:44 AM |
| - Oh gut! Du kannst erklären zu mich was dativ ist! Ich kann ihn verstanden nicht! Vielen Dank! | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 03:33:25 AM |
| - Well I don\'t understand dative either :p You\'ll have to understand it for German, but luckily we\'re talking about Danish here ;) It\'s just a case. It can have all sorts of functions.. but as for Danish (and Dutch) your knowledge of English suffices here :) | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 03:38:56 AM |
| - Suffices? Btw, Why have you been dressed as a girl for so long ???? | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 03:44:20 AM |
| - Any shortcomings in your English are yours to overcome, it\'s not [i]my[/i] native language after all ;) And a T-shirt isn\'t particularly what I consider girl\'s wear (exceptions put aside ;)). | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 03:48:31 AM |
| - Is your hair really that long and blonde??? And whaexactly do you by my shortcomings in english? I don\'t even know what that word means in English, and it\'s my native langauge! | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 03:57:40 AM |
| - Well yes, don\'t know where you\'re from exactly but that isn\'t too strange to me :D Well that\'s just it, that\'s sort of what I was trying to convey; I can\'t properly explain anything but my native language, and especially not a language which is the [i]native[/i] language of the person I\'m explaining it to :D Sorry for any trouble I cause but English is only my second language, so if there\'s anything about it you don\'t understand and want to understand I suggest you consult a dictionary or something of the sort instead of me :p | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 04:01:43 AM |
| - I\'m from America. And yes, it IS strange, to me. In America, you might be mistaken for a male prostitute. (NO OFFENSE!) ;) Or a male dressing up as a female. But, I have heard that up in your gerneral area, there\'s a lot of blue-eyed blonde-haired people. Is that true? | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 26th of August 2006 05:38:13 AM |
| - No offense taken, if that\'s the way it is, then that\'s the way it is ;) I don\'t suppose my girlfriend has any major problems with it, or does she? :D Well yeah at least the kids generally are blond, and blue eyes is very common, you shouldn\'t overrate it though, it\'s not that everyone is like that ;) Dutch people are taller/blonder than Germans at least. And pretty easy to recognize abroad, if you\'re practised :p | |
| Tiger | Saturday 26th of August 2006 10:31:52 AM |
| - What do you mean by \"practiced\" ? :S | |
| Mathieu | Sunday 27th of August 2006 04:07:06 AM |
| - I mean that it is something you have to learn to appreciate. I don\'t suppose a total nono would be able to spot it, hmm but then, perhaps it\'s worse than I thought :p | |
| Tiger | Sunday 27th of August 2006 05:16:38 AM |
| - Ok, fyi, I like blonde-haired blue-eyed girls. So it\'s not like I have to learn to appriciate them. :) | |
| Mathieu | Sunday 27th of August 2006 08:38:04 PM |
| - I didn\'t mean \'appreciate\' as in \'value\' but in another sense of the word :p Oh well, if I\'m not mistaken this forum is to be about Danish ;) | |
| Tiger | Sunday 27th of August 2006 10:56:39 PM |
| - Ok, so do you mean \'appreciate\' as in being able to spot them out in a crowd? | |
| Mathieu | Monday 28th of August 2006 05:26:21 AM |
| - Yeah, that was the idea. The meaning \'to recognize\', \'to understand\'.. hmm, hard to explain in English, let\'s keep it to Danish :p \'at indse\' :) (yeah, just close this thread if you want.. hmm there was no such thing as closing on Phrasebase, is there :)) | |
| Tiger | Monday 28th of August 2006 09:15:39 AM |
| - Ok, but just so you know, in English, \'to appreciate\' wouldn\'t be used as \'to recognize\', and of course I won\'t close down this thread! :P | |
| Mathieu | Thursday 31st of August 2006 02:27:05 AM |
| - I\'m aware that that meaning isn\'t too common anymore. But you can\'t stop me from using it anyway :p Nah, I don\'t know how to use words like those properly, really. I will sick to the things that I do know with relative certainty ;) | |
| Tiger | Thursday 31st of August 2006 06:49:45 AM |
| - That\'s the key word there: relative :p [quote]by Teup I will sick to the things that I do know with relative certainty ;) [/quote] I think you mean stick, and not sick! :p | |
| Mathieu | Thursday 31st of August 2006 06:57:40 AM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by deutsch_junge[/i] I think you mean stick, and not sick! :p[/quote] Hmm, I think so too :D | |
| Tiger | Thursday 31st of August 2006 07:41:59 AM |
| - :D I thought so. :p | |
| Stine | Thursday 31st of August 2006 01:22:17 PM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i] (yeah, just close this thread if you want.. hmm there was no such thing as closing on Phrasebase, is there :))[/quote] I princippet, jo :D | |
| Tiger | Thursday 31st of August 2006 11:50:26 PM |
| - English please, Freja. :p | |
| Stine | Friday 01st of September 2006 04:24:09 AM |
| - Hmm, just wondering.. why did you call this thread [i]Danish[/i]? :p | |
| Tiger | Friday 01st of September 2006 09:57:12 AM |
| - \'Cause my questions were about the Danish language. :p | |
| Mathieu | Friday 01st of September 2006 11:43:27 PM |
| - That\'s the key word there: [i]were[/i] :p | |
| Tiger | Saturday 02nd of September 2006 04:26:49 AM |
| - lol, yeah. :p | |
| Stine | Tuesday 05th of September 2006 08:28:30 AM |
| - Hæhæ :p:p | |
| Tiger | Thursday 07th of September 2006 04:05:53 AM |
| - Hæhæ ? Ist das Dänisch für haha? :S | |
| Morrighan | Wednesday 13th of September 2006 01:18:42 AM |
| - Vær så venlig og skriv i dansk ;) Eller i det mindste i engelsk. | |
| yonico | Thursday 21st of September 2006 06:56:44 PM |
| hi everybody! - i\'m yoni(joni)and i really wanna learn danish coz i like the skandinavian languges so i tried swedish but it was too hard..therefore i\'ve decided to try and learn the danish languge which is a lot like english and german(good for me who speak english and can understand a bit german). unfortunately the danish forum here is really suck why dont you guys put some lessons? or even a page that will explain about the hard part of pronucation? so my question is.....will you,please,add some more information about the danish languge? hope you\'ll make it better and if you do.........good luck! | |
| Mathieu | Thursday 21st of September 2006 11:06:00 PM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by yonico[/i] i\'m yoni(joni)and i really wanna learn danish coz i like the skandinavian languges so i tried swedish but it was too hard..therefore i\'ve decided to try and learn the danish languge which is a lot like english and german(good for me who speak english and can understand a bit german).[/quote] What :D Could you put your finger on one specific respect in which Danish is to be easier than Swedish? :) | |
| yonico | Friday 22nd of September 2006 02:36:08 AM |
| dont you think so teup? - i really think the swedish pronucation is harder than the danish. i am not saying the danish languge is easy, but still norwegian and danish are easier than swedish....i think icelandic is the hardest skandinavian languge.... anyway that\'s what i wanted to talk about...i just wanted to say that this forum is not as the others....even the estonian forum has more information than here.....and estonian is...well far :) | |
| Ulven | Friday 22nd of September 2006 11:02:28 AM |
| - Danish is notoriously difficult for foreigners to pronounce, and even harder in listening comprehension. Swedish may seem hard at first, but after not too long you\'ll realize that there are only very few little rules that must be overcome. I was daunted when listening through a song and reading its text, so I can relate to the apparent strangness, but once I got hold of a phrasebook and cassette Langhuage30/Swedish, I realized it was actually pretty easy and familiar. Just as with German and English, Swedish pronounces things crisply, whereas Danish mumbles and slurs its words. But the fact is, each individual is different, so who knows, maybe you\'ll find Danish ok. I don\'t find it similar to German at all, I must say. Grammatically though, I agree that Danish is easier than Swedish, though neither is toop far from Englisu grammar to begin with. Swedish is more picky, whereas Danish is more flexible. Though perhaps this perception has more to do with the teachers I\'ve had on the internet. [b]Stine[/b] tends to know when to pick you up on something and when to leave it be until you\'re better, so maybe Danish is just as detailed too in its rules. [b]Rikard[/b] is the ever-typical efficient Swede, so perhaps he corrected everything at once and I wasn\'t good enough, so became daunted. I seemed to not make myself as understood to him, but I\'m probably alot better now, so it may not be a reflection on Swedish itself but on my linguistic immatuirity at the time. There were some threads on Danish pronunciation here. I did one, but it\'s gone to the archives, which is pretty annoying and inconvenient. And there was a links thread too, linking to helful sites, but it also has disappeared to the archives. Yeah, the Estonians have a bit of beginners\' interaction to help it along. It is indeed an excellent sub-forum... one of the best, considering its lack of fame as a language. Estonian, now there\'s a difficult language, mama mia!!! :O Teup, I do think that Danish is easier for a native Englishman to read than Swedish... though maybe I only think this because I\'ve neglected my Swedish so long :p I think Danish has more common vocabulary with English than Swedish. But this in no way makes up for anything regarding speaking and listening, oh no... Danes combine ten words into a single syllable! And the difference between a vowel and a consonant is negligible :p | |
| Stine | Friday 22nd of September 2006 06:41:51 PM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by Ulveven[/i] Though perhaps this perception has more to do with the teachers I\'ve had on the internet. [b]Stine[/b] tends to know when to pick you up on something and when to leave it be until you\'re better, so maybe Danish is just as detailed too in its rules. [/quote] Danish can be very detailed, ja :) [quote][i]Originally posted by Ulveven[/i] Danes combine ten words into a single syllable! And the difference between a vowel and a consonant is negligible :p[/quote] :D That happens sometimes, I guess :p My sentences could be longer. If I get annoyed, I tend to ask [i][Vedu?][/i] instead of [i]Hvad vil du?[/i]. Hmm, [i][Hardu\'m mæ]?[/i] instead of [i]Har du dem med?[/i] and so on :p | |
| Mathieu | Saturday 23rd of September 2006 03:59:09 AM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by yonico[/i] i really think the swedish pronucation is harder than the danish. [/quote] Not sure about Danish pronunciation, but yeah, Swedish is kinda hard for me.. [quote] i am not saying the danish languge is easy, but still norwegian and danish are easier than swedish....i think icelandic is the hardest skandinavian languge....[/quote] No, actually. I\'d say all mainland Scandinavian languages are equally hard :) Though Danish might be a tad harder for the same reason as that Dutch is hard, as it tends to be a language of the heart rather than the brain ;) (in other words, it\'s a mess :p). Whether Icelandic is harder depends on your native grammar, I guess (no clue about the pronunciation for that one though). Swedish to me is a little like German in the sense that it\'s pretty.. logical. It sort of sticks with the rules. Intelligable for outsiders that simply study those rules, like with German. The grammar of all major mainland Scandinavian languages is pretty straight forward, although, there are some funky word order constructions in Swedish that you wouldn\'t find in any other Germanic language.. but they\'re rare :) | |