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Koenholio Saturday 22nd of October 2005 09:33:44 AM
Twents - I live in Twente (region in Holland), but I can't speak Twents very well... I'm learning though!
Does anyone have interest in the eastern dialect in Holland: Twents? If you have any tips or handy sites, do not hasitate to post them here! It might come in handy for people who want to learn it (I understand that also people who are not from Holland are also interested in dialects, so I type this in English ;-) )

Here are some sites I found (in Dutch):
http://members.home.nl/goaitsen/twents/

http://www.geocities.com/twentschgenootschap/TwentseTaal.htm#Voor%20de%20Standaard%20Schriefwieze%20voor%20Twentse%20en%20aanverwante%20streektalen.

http://taal.phileon.nl/nds_twents.php

Axnot Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:13:42 PM
- Heu, Koen I don't speak Twents either. My grandmother does. I like it very much to hear her talk Twents. Maybe you should post your questions about Twents also on the German part of this forum. In Gemany there are larger Low Saxon areas than in the Netherlands.

Heidense groet,

Axnot

Koenholio Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:40:05 PM
Useful phrases - Some useful phrases:

Twents: Joa
Dutch: Ja
English: Yes

Twents: Tot mor'n*
Dutch: Tot morgen
English: See you tomorrow

*The 'r' is not pronounced, so 'mor'n' is pronounced 'mon'. The word also pronounced very quick. Sometimes tot mor'n is just pronounced as one word, kind of like 'tomon'.

Twents: Aju*!
Dutch: Doei! (or: Dag!)
English: Bye!

*the 'u' is pronounced 'ú'

Example:
Ik goat hen. Aju!
Ik ga weg. Doei!
I'm going. Bye!

Aju is not only said in Twente, it's used everywhere in Holland. But in Twents (and some other regional languages) it's used a lot more than elsewhere.

Twents: Doot heanig an!
Dutch: Doe kalm aan!
English: Take it easy!

This is mostly said when someone says goodbye, but it's also used to tell someone to actually take it easy. It's a bit hard to translate to English, but it means something like "take it as it comes".

Example:
Aju, doot heanig* an!
Doei, doe kalm aan!
Bye, take it easy!

*the 'ea' in heanig is pronounced 'è'
When it's very hot, or very cold, or if you're exhausted, or any other extreme condition, people in Twente say:

Twents: Ik leg't bienoah* of!
Dutch: Ik leg het bijna af/ik leg bijna het loodje!
English: I'm almost dying! (it's translated a bit literally)

Example:
Twents: Wat ist koald hier. Ik leg't bienoah of!
Dutch: Wat is het hier koud. Ik bevries bijna!
English: It's so cold here. I'm freezing!

Twents: Hoe hej't dah?
Dutch: Hoe gaat het met je?
English: How are you?

For more examples, go to www.matijn.nl
There is a course of 20 lessons to learn Twents, you can read and hear some useful phrases there. Just look for (or press "cntrl+F") "roelie spreekt". At the moment there are 4 lessons available. Click on "volgende 10 berichten" for the next 10 messages.

Koenholio Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:41:25 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Axnot[/i]

Heu, Koen I don't speak Twents either. My grandmother does. I like it very much to hear her talk Twents. Maybe you should post your questions about Twents also on the German part of this forum. In Gemany there are larger Low Saxon areas than in the Netherlands.

Heidense groet,

Axnot[/quote]

Heilsa, Axnot!

Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out!

Psyche Saturday 22nd of October 2005 07:10:35 PM
- Ach..now I know what dialect I`ll study :D

Mathieu Saturday 22nd of October 2005 10:02:18 PM
- Hehe, nice :) Hmm, 'ik leg het af' is also common in Standard Dutch.. or is it.. :p

I also like Zwols by the way, my grandma's family used to think it cool to just throw out some random Zwolse phrases/proverbs here and there.. I tried to search for info on that, but to no avail so far..

Koenholio Saturday 22nd of October 2005 10:10:10 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i]

Hehe, nice :) Hmm, 'ik leg het af' is also common in Standard Dutch.. or is it.. :p

I also like Zwols by the way, my grandma's family used to think it cool to just throw out some random Zwolse phrases/proverbs here and there.. I tried to search for info on that, but to no avail so far..[/quote]

Ghehe thanks. Just edited it ;)
I don't know Zwols, but maybe I will someday :p

Psyche Saturday 22nd of October 2005 11:49:51 PM
- Your grandma`s family? Eh...I think I`ll stick with Twente ;) :D It would be nice if there were some info about it though :)

Mathieu Sunday 23rd of October 2005 12:06:17 AM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Psyche[/i]

Your grandma`s family? Eh...I think I`ll stick with Twente ;) :D[/quote]

Then it'll be Axnot's grandma for you :p Well, suit yourself :D
But you're right, Zwols is outdated, maybe there are some poems here and there but I doubt if anyone still speaks it seriously..

Koenholio Sunday 23rd of October 2005 08:05:37 PM
- When you want to learn Twents, there is a bit of a problem: there are a lot of variants of the dialect. People from Oldenzaal for intance have very different words for the same things from people from Almelo, Ootmarsum etc. For instance "to work" -> In Oldenzaal, people say "werk'n" and in Rijssen it's "wark'n".
This is just a small difference, but some words are totally different from eachother.

----

Some notes:

*In Twents, every 'e' in -en is not pronounced, so you don't say "proaten" (=to talk) but "proat'n".

*The 'r' at the end of a word is also not pronounced. So in stead of "woar" you say "woa".

----

Some more phrases:

Twents: Mangs wa, aait nich
Dutch: Soms wel, maar niet altijd
English: Sometimes, but not always

Twents: Die keal is onmeunig dik!
Dutch: Die kerel/man is ontzettend dronken!
English: That guy is so drunk!

Example:
Twents: Moej em zeen anfoddeken: die keal is onmeunig dik!
Dutch: Moet je hem zien waggelen: die kerel is ontzettend dronken!
English: Look at him wobble: that guy is so drunk!

Twents: Woar bin ie d'r één van?
Dutch: Van wie ben jij familie?
English: Who are you family of?

Example:
Twents: Woar bin ie d'r één van?
-Ik bin d'r één van Peters.
Dutch: Van wie ben jij familie?
-Ik ben van de familie Peters
English: Who are you family of?
-I'm of the Peters family.

Twents: Kuierdroad
Dutch: Telefoon
English: Telephone
(Kuieren = to talk; droad = thread/line -> kuierdroad = a line to talk through)

Twents: Mir(re)weenter
Dutch: Midwinter
English: Midwinter

Twents: moin; goondag; geoavend/goonoavend.
Dutch: goedemorgen; goedendag; goedenavond.
English: good morning; good day; good evening.

More coming up soon.
Aju, doot heanig an!

Aljorun Wednesday 26th of October 2005 04:41:49 AM
- Hey Koen :)

My dad's native dialect is Twents as well. But since he is living in Brabant for about 20 years now, you can't hear it anymore. He only speaks a bit different than my mother and I do. But when he is talking to his old friends, I can't even understand what he is saying :P. I don't speak Twents at all.

By the way, after 20 years of living in Brabant, my dad says 'Houdoe' when he is leaving ;).

Koenholio Wednesday 26th of October 2005 05:11:03 AM
- Heilsa Aljorun!

I recognize that story ;) My aunt used to live in Twente as well and also lives in Brabant now. But she doesn't have a Twents accent at all anymore (pity :p). Don't know if she can still speak Twents...

I'm only learning Twents as well, so I don't know if everything I posted is correct, especially because there are so many variants of the dialect. Could it be possible for you to show the above to your father so he can correct me if I'm wrong?
No problem if it isn't possible or whatever, but it might be handy, that's all ;)
Thanks in advance!

Heanig an! ;)

Axnot Thursday 27th of October 2005 04:06:59 AM
- Heu Koen,

In the bookshop 'De Slegte' in Rotterdam there is wordbook Twents - Dutch for only 7,50 euro. I thought you might be interested. I expect you don't visit Rotterdam very often and thought maybe I can buy the book for you and give it to you when I see you on one of the meetings of NH. (Maybe with the 'Herfstwandeling'or maybe on the 'Heydensch drinckgelag'?)

Greetz,

Axnot

Koenholio Thursday 27th of October 2005 03:55:41 PM
- Hey Axnot,

That would be great! :D
I'm going to Rotterdam tomorrow, Bob Dylan is giving a concert. But I don't think I will be visiting the city itself, but just the Ahoy. We have a Slegte in Enschede too, I think the odds are good that in a Twents Slegte there can also be found a Twents - Dutch wordbook ;).
I'll take a look around there first. Will probably next week because I go to school in Enschede and I have vacation at the moment.

I have a wordbook Twents - Dutch, Dutch - Twents, but it isn't very extensive. Maybe the one from Rotterdam is better.
Could you tell me who the writer is and what the title is (if it is any other than "Woordenboek Twents - Nederlands")? Then I can look for it in Enschede.
If I can't find it there, it would be very cool if you could bring the book from Rotterdam to a NH meeting (probably will be Heydensch Drinckgelag).

Thanks a lot for the offer!

Axnot Thursday 27th of October 2005 05:19:06 PM
- Ok Koen, I will have a look there again (in De Slegte)for the title and de name of the writer.

Greetz,

Axnot

Mathieu Thursday 27th of October 2005 10:50:22 PM
- www.lowlands-l.net is a cool site, it also has Twents (not under Dutch but Low Saxon)

Koenholio Saturday 05th of November 2005 06:33:38 PM
- Sorry folks, it's been a while!
Here's some new stuff for you:

Twents: 'K heb pien in't dak
Dutch: Ik heb hoofdpijn
English: My head hurts

Twents: Goodgoan
Dutch: Goedgaan
English: To go well
This word has been chosen as the most beautiful Twents word this year!

Twents: Voel
Dutch: Smerig
English: Dirty

Example:
Twents: Die keal gloept mie onmeunig voel an!
Dutch: Die kerel gaapt me ontzettend smerig aan!
English: That guy is staring at me very dirty!

Twents: Huuske(n)/ Ton(ne)/ Driethoes
Dutch: Toilet (Driethoes betekent letterlijk Schijthuis)
English: Toilet (Driethoes means litterally Sh*thouse)

Twents: Oons bint zuunig!
Dutch: Wij zijn zuinig!
English: We are economical*
*As in: 'using the minimum of time or resources necessary for effectiveness.'

(And how could I forget this word):
Twents: Tukker
Dutch: Twentenaar
English: A person from Twente

Twents: Fietserd/ Koaldfietserd
Dutch: Koukleum
English: Someone who is cold very fast

Example:
Twents: Ze hebt hier nig koald, ie bint benoalweg een koaldfietserd!
Dutch: Het is hier niet koud, je bent gewoonweg een koukleum!
English: It's not cold in here, you're just cold very fast!

Twents: 'Nen kroam moak'n
Dutch: Rommel maken
English: To make a mess

Example:
Twents: Ruum oe koamer 'nen moal op! Ie hebt er weer 'nen ontiegelijk'n kroam van!
Dutch: Ruim je kamer eens een keer op! Je hebt er weer een ontzettende rommel van!
English: Clean your room for once! It's a huge mess in there!

Mathieu Saturday 05th of November 2005 09:41:26 PM
- Sweet :D

Hehe, 'Oons bint zuunig', I've heard my mom saying that one a couple of times, now I know where it's from :D

Koenholio Thursday 15th of December 2005 10:49:24 PM
- Leu, 't spiet mie donders da'k zo onmeunig völ vot ben west, moar 'k heb wear wat niejs veur oe.
Mensen, het spijt me ontzettend dat ik zo veel afwezig ben geweest, maar ik heb weer wat nieuws voor jullie.
People, I'm sorry that I've been abscent so long, but I've got some new stuff for you.

Twents: 'T löpt wa los
Dutch: Het komt wel goed/Dat zal wel lukken
English: It'll be alright/It'll do fine

Twents: Mooi brek'n!
Dutch: Mooi ouwehoeren!/Lekker gek doen!
English: To mess around

Example:
Twents: "Kom, jöngs, wie geet mooi brek'n!"
Dutch: "Kom, jongens, we gaan lekker ouwehoeren!"
English: "Come, fellows, we're going to mess around!"

Twents: "Moe-k oe d'r moal één anhouw'n?!"
Dutch: "Moet ik je slaan?!" (als in: je vraagt erom!)
English: "Do you want me to hit you?!" (as in: you're asking for it!)

Twents: Leefde
Dutch: Liefde
English: Love

Twents: Vör 'n dag krieg'n
Dutch: Tevoorschijn halen/laten zien
English: To show

If you want any teksts or words translated to/from Twents, please let me know. Then I can try to translate them myself as an exercise, and if I can't make it out I can always ask family and friends. :)

Mathieu Saturday 17th of December 2005 01:37:35 AM
- Yay, some more Twents :) Hmm, I think there's "het loopt wel los" in standard Dutch besides "het komt wel goed" etc.

What exactly is your definition of "ouwehoeren"? :D "Ouwehoeren" is talking smalltalk, not messing around, to my knowledge :p

Koenholio Saturday 17th of December 2005 05:59:02 AM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i]
I think there's "het loopt wel los" in standard Dutch besides "het komt wel goed" etc.[/quote]
Yeah, that's correct. But " 't löpt wa los" (and many other expressions in Twents) can be used for different situations. :)

[quote]What exactly is your definition of "ouwehoeren"? :D [/quote]
Just messing around, something like 'iemand de gek aansteken' (beetje plagen dus).
I use it for instance in:
"Niet zo ouwehoeren"->"Niet zo klooien"/"Don't screw around so much"

Hope I've made it a little clearer. :)

Phrasebase Archive
	Koenholio	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 09:33:44 AM
	Twents - I live in Twente (region in Holland), but I can't speak Twents very well... I'm learning though! Does anyone have interest in the eastern dialect in Holland: Twents? If you have any tips or handy sites, do not hasitate to post them here! It might come in handy for people who want to learn it (I understand that also people who are not from Holland are also interested in dialects, so I type this in English ;-) ) Here are some sites I found (in Dutch): http://members.home.nl/goaitsen/twents/ http://www.geocities.com/twentschgenootschap/TwentseTaal.htm#Voor%20de%20Standaard%20Schriefwieze%20voor%20Twentse%20en%20aanverwante%20streektalen. http://taal.phileon.nl/nds_twents.php
	Axnot	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:13:42 PM
	- Heu, Koen I don't speak Twents either. My grandmother does. I like it very much to hear her talk Twents. Maybe you should post your questions about Twents also on the German part of this forum. In Gemany there are larger Low Saxon areas than in the Netherlands. Heidense groet, Axnot
	Koenholio	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:40:05 PM
	Useful phrases - Some useful phrases: Twents: Joa Dutch: Ja English: Yes Twents: Tot mor'n* Dutch: Tot morgen English: See you tomorrow The 'r' is not pronounced, so 'mor'n' is pronounced 'mon'. The word also pronounced very quick. Sometimes tot mor'n is just pronounced as one word, kind of like 'tomon'. Twents: Aju! Dutch: Doei! (or: Dag!) English: Bye! the 'u' is pronounced 'ú' Example: Ik goat hen. Aju! Ik ga weg. Doei! I'm going. Bye! Aju is not only said in Twente, it's used everywhere in Holland. But in Twents (and some other regional languages) it's used a lot more than elsewhere. Twents: Doot heanig an! Dutch: Doe kalm aan! English: Take it easy! This is mostly said when someone says goodbye, but it's also used to tell someone to actually take it easy. It's a bit hard to translate to English, but it means something like "take it as it comes". Example: Aju, doot heanig an! Doei, doe kalm aan! Bye, take it easy! the 'ea' in heanig is pronounced 'è' When it's very hot, or very cold, or if you're exhausted, or any other extreme condition, people in Twente say: Twents: Ik leg't bienoah of! Dutch: Ik leg het bijna af/ik leg bijna het loodje! English: I'm almost dying! (it's translated a bit literally) Example: Twents: Wat ist koald hier. Ik leg't bienoah of! Dutch: Wat is het hier koud. Ik bevries bijna! English: It's so cold here. I'm freezing! Twents: Hoe hej't dah? Dutch: Hoe gaat het met je? English: How are you? For more examples, go to www.matijn.nl There is a course of 20 lessons to learn Twents, you can read and hear some useful phrases there. Just look for (or press "cntrl+F") "roelie spreekt". At the moment there are 4 lessons available. Click on "volgende 10 berichten" for the next 10 messages.
	Koenholio	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 06:41:25 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Axnot[/i] Heu, Koen I don't speak Twents either. My grandmother does. I like it very much to hear her talk Twents. Maybe you should post your questions about Twents also on the German part of this forum. In Gemany there are larger Low Saxon areas than in the Netherlands. Heidense groet, Axnot[/quote] Heilsa, Axnot! Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out!
	Psyche	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 07:10:35 PM
	- Ach..now I know what dialect I`ll study :D
	Mathieu	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 10:02:18 PM
	- Hehe, nice :) Hmm, 'ik leg het af' is also common in Standard Dutch.. or is it.. :p I also like Zwols by the way, my grandma's family used to think it cool to just throw out some random Zwolse phrases/proverbs here and there.. I tried to search for info on that, but to no avail so far..
	Koenholio	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 10:10:10 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i] Hehe, nice :) Hmm, 'ik leg het af' is also common in Standard Dutch.. or is it.. :p I also like Zwols by the way, my grandma's family used to think it cool to just throw out some random Zwolse phrases/proverbs here and there.. I tried to search for info on that, but to no avail so far..[/quote] Ghehe thanks. Just edited it ;) I don't know Zwols, but maybe I will someday :p
	Psyche	Saturday 22nd of October 2005 11:49:51 PM
	- Your grandma`s family? Eh...I think I`ll stick with Twente ;) :D It would be nice if there were some info about it though :)
	Mathieu	Sunday 23rd of October 2005 12:06:17 AM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Psyche[/i] Your grandma`s family? Eh...I think I`ll stick with Twente ;) :D[/quote] Then it'll be Axnot's grandma for you :p Well, suit yourself :D But you're right, Zwols is outdated, maybe there are some poems here and there but I doubt if anyone still speaks it seriously..
	Koenholio	Sunday 23rd of October 2005 08:05:37 PM
	- When you want to learn Twents, there is a bit of a problem: there are a lot of variants of the dialect. People from Oldenzaal for intance have very different words for the same things from people from Almelo, Ootmarsum etc. For instance "to work" -> In Oldenzaal, people say "werk'n" and in Rijssen it's "wark'n". This is just a small difference, but some words are totally different from eachother. ---- Some notes: In Twents, every 'e' in -en is not pronounced, so you don't say "proaten" (=to talk) but "proat'n". The 'r' at the end of a word is also not pronounced. So in stead of "woar" you say "woa". ---- Some more phrases: Twents: Mangs wa, aait nich Dutch: Soms wel, maar niet altijd English: Sometimes, but not always Twents: Die keal is onmeunig dik! Dutch: Die kerel/man is ontzettend dronken! English: That guy is so drunk! Example: Twents: Moej em zeen anfoddeken: die keal is onmeunig dik! Dutch: Moet je hem zien waggelen: die kerel is ontzettend dronken! English: Look at him wobble: that guy is so drunk! Twents: Woar bin ie d'r één van? Dutch: Van wie ben jij familie? English: Who are you family of? Example: Twents: Woar bin ie d'r één van? -Ik bin d'r één van Peters. Dutch: Van wie ben jij familie? -Ik ben van de familie Peters English: Who are you family of? -I'm of the Peters family. Twents: Kuierdroad Dutch: Telefoon English: Telephone (Kuieren = to talk; droad = thread/line -> kuierdroad = a line to talk through) Twents: Mir(re)weenter Dutch: Midwinter English: Midwinter Twents: moin; goondag; geoavend/goonoavend. Dutch: goedemorgen; goedendag; goedenavond. English: good morning; good day; good evening. More coming up soon. Aju, doot heanig an!
	Aljorun	Wednesday 26th of October 2005 04:41:49 AM
	- Hey Koen :) My dad's native dialect is Twents as well. But since he is living in Brabant for about 20 years now, you can't hear it anymore. He only speaks a bit different than my mother and I do. But when he is talking to his old friends, I can't even understand what he is saying :P. I don't speak Twents at all. By the way, after 20 years of living in Brabant, my dad says 'Houdoe' when he is leaving ;).
	Koenholio	Wednesday 26th of October 2005 05:11:03 AM
	- Heilsa Aljorun! I recognize that story ;) My aunt used to live in Twente as well and also lives in Brabant now. But she doesn't have a Twents accent at all anymore (pity :p). Don't know if she can still speak Twents... I'm only learning Twents as well, so I don't know if everything I posted is correct, especially because there are so many variants of the dialect. Could it be possible for you to show the above to your father so he can correct me if I'm wrong? No problem if it isn't possible or whatever, but it might be handy, that's all ;) Thanks in advance! Heanig an! ;)
	Axnot	Thursday 27th of October 2005 04:06:59 AM
	- Heu Koen, In the bookshop 'De Slegte' in Rotterdam there is wordbook Twents - Dutch for only 7,50 euro. I thought you might be interested. I expect you don't visit Rotterdam very often and thought maybe I can buy the book for you and give it to you when I see you on one of the meetings of NH. (Maybe with the 'Herfstwandeling'or maybe on the 'Heydensch drinckgelag'?) Greetz, Axnot
	Koenholio	Thursday 27th of October 2005 03:55:41 PM
	- Hey Axnot, That would be great! :D I'm going to Rotterdam tomorrow, Bob Dylan is giving a concert. But I don't think I will be visiting the city itself, but just the Ahoy. We have a Slegte in Enschede too, I think the odds are good that in a Twents Slegte there can also be found a Twents - Dutch wordbook ;). I'll take a look around there first. Will probably next week because I go to school in Enschede and I have vacation at the moment. I have a wordbook Twents - Dutch, Dutch - Twents, but it isn't very extensive. Maybe the one from Rotterdam is better. Could you tell me who the writer is and what the title is (if it is any other than "Woordenboek Twents - Nederlands")? Then I can look for it in Enschede. If I can't find it there, it would be very cool if you could bring the book from Rotterdam to a NH meeting (probably will be Heydensch Drinckgelag). Thanks a lot for the offer!
	Axnot	Thursday 27th of October 2005 05:19:06 PM
	- Ok Koen, I will have a look there again (in De Slegte)for the title and de name of the writer. Greetz, Axnot
	Mathieu	Thursday 27th of October 2005 10:50:22 PM
	- www.lowlands-l.net is a cool site, it also has Twents (not under Dutch but Low Saxon)
	Koenholio	Saturday 05th of November 2005 06:33:38 PM
	- Sorry folks, it's been a while! Here's some new stuff for you: Twents: 'K heb pien in't dak Dutch: Ik heb hoofdpijn English: My head hurts Twents: Goodgoan Dutch: Goedgaan English: To go well This word has been chosen as the most beautiful Twents word this year! Twents: Voel Dutch: Smerig English: Dirty Example: Twents: Die keal gloept mie onmeunig voel an! Dutch: Die kerel gaapt me ontzettend smerig aan! English: That guy is staring at me very dirty! Twents: Huuske(n)/ Ton(ne)/ Driethoes Dutch: Toilet (Driethoes betekent letterlijk Schijthuis) English: Toilet (Driethoes means litterally Shthouse) Twents: Oons bint zuunig! Dutch: Wij zijn zuinig! English: We are economical *As in: 'using the minimum of time or resources necessary for effectiveness.' (And how could I forget this word): Twents: Tukker Dutch: Twentenaar English: A person from Twente Twents: Fietserd/ Koaldfietserd Dutch: Koukleum English: Someone who is cold very fast Example: Twents: Ze hebt hier nig koald, ie bint benoalweg een koaldfietserd! Dutch: Het is hier niet koud, je bent gewoonweg een koukleum! English: It's not cold in here, you're just cold very fast! Twents: 'Nen kroam moak'n Dutch: Rommel maken English: To make a mess Example: Twents: Ruum oe koamer 'nen moal op! Ie hebt er weer 'nen ontiegelijk'n kroam van! Dutch: Ruim je kamer eens een keer op! Je hebt er weer een ontzettende rommel van! English: Clean your room for once! It's a huge mess in there!
	Mathieu	Saturday 05th of November 2005 09:41:26 PM
	- Sweet :D Hehe, 'Oons bint zuunig', I've heard my mom saying that one a couple of times, now I know where it's from :D
	Koenholio	Thursday 15th of December 2005 10:49:24 PM
	- Leu, 't spiet mie donders da'k zo onmeunig völ vot ben west, moar 'k heb wear wat niejs veur oe. Mensen, het spijt me ontzettend dat ik zo veel afwezig ben geweest, maar ik heb weer wat nieuws voor jullie. People, I'm sorry that I've been abscent so long, but I've got some new stuff for you. Twents: 'T löpt wa los Dutch: Het komt wel goed/Dat zal wel lukken English: It'll be alright/It'll do fine Twents: Mooi brek'n! Dutch: Mooi ouwehoeren!/Lekker gek doen! English: To mess around Example: Twents: "Kom, jöngs, wie geet mooi brek'n!" Dutch: "Kom, jongens, we gaan lekker ouwehoeren!" English: "Come, fellows, we're going to mess around!" Twents: "Moe-k oe d'r moal één anhouw'n?!" Dutch: "Moet ik je slaan?!" (als in: je vraagt erom!) English: "Do you want me to hit you?!" (as in: you're asking for it!) Twents: Leefde Dutch: Liefde English: Love Twents: Vör 'n dag krieg'n Dutch: Tevoorschijn halen/laten zien English: To show If you want any teksts or words translated to/from Twents, please let me know. Then I can try to translate them myself as an exercise, and if I can't make it out I can always ask family and friends. :)
	Mathieu	Saturday 17th of December 2005 01:37:35 AM
	- Yay, some more Twents :) Hmm, I think there's "het loopt wel los" in standard Dutch besides "het komt wel goed" etc. What exactly is your definition of "ouwehoeren"? :D "Ouwehoeren" is talking smalltalk, not messing around, to my knowledge :p
	Koenholio	Saturday 17th of December 2005 05:59:02 AM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i] I think there's "het loopt wel los" in standard Dutch besides "het komt wel goed" etc.[/quote] Yeah, that's correct. But " 't löpt wa los" (and many other expressions in Twents) can be used for different situations. :) [quote]What exactly is your definition of "ouwehoeren"? :D [/quote] Just messing around, something like 'iemand de gek aansteken' (beetje plagen dus). I use it for instance in: "Niet zo ouwehoeren"->"Niet zo klooien"/"Don't screw around so much" Hope I've made it a little clearer. :)