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elisa21 Monday 13th of February 2006 07:09:35 PM
voorkomen en voorko'men - Wat is het verschil tussen voorkomen en voorko'men ?

Ik heb een andere vraag over zinsbouw?Kan je Teup dat voor mij uitleggen ?

Alvast bedankt,
Elisa

Mathieu Monday 13th of February 2006 10:08:28 PM
- 'Voorkomen' ([[b]fO:R[/b] ko m@]) means 'to occur'; 'voorkómen' ([fOR [b]ko[/b] m@]) means 'to prevent'.
As for syntax it has two consequences, first, the one is obviously transitive whereas the other is not, just like in English. Also, the one is a seperable verb (scheidbaar werkwoord), like opbellen, afwassen, neerhalen, bijkomen, opeten, etc; the other one is not. Now the mentioned seperable verbs all have the prepositional particle stressed, just like 'voorkomen' (to occur)

[b]Af[/b]wassen - to do the dishes
Ik was [b]af[/b]
I do the dishes

[b]Voor[/b]komen - to occur:
Het komt [b]voor[/b]
It occurs

So it behaves exactly like a seperable verb. Now the other one is just a normal, non-seperating, transitive verb:

Wassen - to wash
Ik was het
I wash it

Voor[b]kó[/b]men - to prevent
Ik voor[b]kóm[/b] het (Note: I'm not sure how it is spelled officially - just a personal preference since it's clearer :p)
I prevent it

Ok, got it? It's probably nothing new - you just have to assign both of these two verbs to categories of verbs you were already familiar with.

Now. At the risk of confusing you (but if I don't, sooner or later something else will definately do it anyway :p): there is a preposition 'voor' wich means 'for / in front of', there's also a preposition 'vóór' meaning 'before' (time meaning). So you can also have 'komen voor' - 'to come for / because of', and 'komen vóór' - 'to come before'

Ik [b]kom[/b] voor meneer Jansen
I come for meeting mr. Jansen

A komt [b]vóór[/b] B
A comes before B

So just to point out that whenever you see those words, it need not necessarily be one of those two verbs - it can always still be a normal verb that just so happens to have a prepositional phrase behind it.

Anything unclear, ask.

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	elisa21	Monday 13th of February 2006 07:09:35 PM
	voorkomen en voorko'men - Wat is het verschil tussen voorkomen en voorko'men ? Ik heb een andere vraag over zinsbouw?Kan je Teup dat voor mij uitleggen ? Alvast bedankt, Elisa
	Mathieu	Monday 13th of February 2006 10:08:28 PM
	- 'Voorkomen' ([[b]fO:R[/b] ko m@]) means 'to occur'; 'voorkómen' ([fOR [b]ko[/b] m@]) means 'to prevent'. As for syntax it has two consequences, first, the one is obviously transitive whereas the other is not, just like in English. Also, the one is a seperable verb (scheidbaar werkwoord), like opbellen, afwassen, neerhalen, bijkomen, opeten, etc; the other one is not. Now the mentioned seperable verbs all have the prepositional particle stressed, just like 'voorkomen' (to occur) [b]Af[/b]wassen - to do the dishes Ik was [b]af[/b] I do the dishes [b]Voor[/b]komen - to occur: Het komt [b]voor[/b] It occurs So it behaves exactly like a seperable verb. Now the other one is just a normal, non-seperating, transitive verb: Wassen - to wash Ik was het I wash it Voor[b]kó[/b]men - to prevent Ik voor[b]kóm[/b] het (Note: I'm not sure how it is spelled officially - just a personal preference since it's clearer :p) I prevent it Ok, got it? It's probably nothing new - you just have to assign both of these two verbs to categories of verbs you were already familiar with. Now. At the risk of confusing you (but if I don't, sooner or later something else will definately do it anyway :p): there is a preposition 'voor' wich means 'for / in front of', there's also a preposition 'vóór' meaning 'before' (time meaning). So you can also have 'komen voor' - 'to come for / because of', and 'komen vóór' - 'to come before' Ik [b]kom[/b] voor meneer Jansen I come for meeting mr. Jansen A komt [b]vóór[/b] B A comes before B So just to point out that whenever you see those words, it need not necessarily be one of those two verbs - it can always still be a normal verb that just so happens to have a prepositional phrase behind it. Anything unclear, ask.