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khaan11 Sunday 30th of October 2005 01:58:08 AM
Objects - Hi.

What's the difference between using eg: "shoma ra" and sticking the possessive ending on the end of a verb:
eg: didamash and shoma ra didam

(if that's even correct)

Paul8 Sunday 30th of October 2005 10:04:12 AM
- first of all aeş is an ending used by the third person singular (he/she) and no endings are ever added to a conjugated verb, whihc means that didaemaeş is definitely incorrect. you must use shoma ra

daristani Monday 31st of October 2005 01:44:01 AM
Not true - Sorry, but the above response is incorrect. -esh, which indeed is a possessive suffix meaning "his", "her", or "its", can indeed be added to a conjugated verb (or the non-verbal element of a compound verb) in colloquial Persian, and serves to express the object.

"didamesh" means "I saw him/her/it", and is a more colloquial form of "u-ra didam". The equivalent colloquial form for the second-person plural/polite pronoun "shoma" would be "didametan" or, even more colloquially, "didametun", in place of "shoma-ra didam".

A couple of additional examples from page 73 of Wheeler Thackston's "An Introduction to Persian":

nadidameshan I didn't see them

mibinandesh They'll see him

bazesh kardand They opened it

Paul8 Monday 31st of October 2005 06:40:26 AM
- I appologize. I was answering based on the formal usage of the language. I mainly thought it was incorrect because of the use of esh instead of -i or etan.

khaan11 Monday 31st of October 2005 09:21:55 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Paul8[/i]

first of all aeş is an ending used by the third person singular (he/she) [/quote]

oops

Phrasebase Archive
	khaan11	Sunday 30th of October 2005 01:58:08 AM
	Objects - Hi. What's the difference between using eg: "shoma ra" and sticking the possessive ending on the end of a verb: eg: didamash and shoma ra didam (if that's even correct)
	Paul8	Sunday 30th of October 2005 10:04:12 AM
	- first of all aeş is an ending used by the third person singular (he/she) and no endings are ever added to a conjugated verb, whihc means that didaemaeş is definitely incorrect. you must use shoma ra
	daristani	Monday 31st of October 2005 01:44:01 AM
	Not true - Sorry, but the above response is incorrect. -esh, which indeed is a possessive suffix meaning "his", "her", or "its", can indeed be added to a conjugated verb (or the non-verbal element of a compound verb) in colloquial Persian, and serves to express the object. "didamesh" means "I saw him/her/it", and is a more colloquial form of "u-ra didam". The equivalent colloquial form for the second-person plural/polite pronoun "shoma" would be "didametan" or, even more colloquially, "didametun", in place of "shoma-ra didam". A couple of additional examples from page 73 of Wheeler Thackston's "An Introduction to Persian": nadidameshan I didn't see them mibinandesh They'll see him bazesh kardand They opened it
	Paul8	Monday 31st of October 2005 06:40:26 AM
	- I appologize. I was answering based on the formal usage of the language. I mainly thought it was incorrect because of the use of esh instead of -i or etan.
	khaan11	Monday 31st of October 2005 09:21:55 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Paul8[/i] first of all aeş is an ending used by the third person singular (he/she) [/quote] oops