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blueboar Saturday 18th of February 2006 07:43:43 PM
ezafet construction - Hi, i was wondering about difference of the 2 sentences in persian. How should i say:
1) first name of my cat
2) name of my first cat

I'm not sure, but using my feeling for language i would say:
(forgive me lack of persian fonts)

1)nAm e avval e gorbeam or avvalin nAm e gorbeam
2)nAm e gorbeam e avval or nAm e avvalin gorbeam

am i right?

Paul8 Monday 20th of February 2006 06:30:29 AM
- Your translations are correct. Your sentences would look like this in Persian:
1:نام اول گربه‌ام - اولین نام گربه‌ام
نام گربه‌ام - نام اولین گربه‌ام:2

Paul8 Monday 20th of February 2006 06:30:40 AM
- Your translations are correct. Your sentences would look like this in Persian:
1:نام اول گربه‌ام - اولین نام گربه‌ام
2:نام گربه‌ام اول - نام اولین گربه‌ام

setak Tuesday 21st of February 2006 10:41:59 AM
In the name of God - Hi
1) first name of my cat=نام کوچک گربه ام
2) name of my first cat=نام اولین گربه ام

Be careful نام اول or اولین نام is not a suitable equivalent for "first name" in Farsi.

Paul8 Tuesday 21st of February 2006 02:39:35 PM
- oh so then it's not like in English? then is the last name considered as the 'big' name since the first is considred small?

blueboar Tuesday 21st of February 2006 11:15:46 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by setak[/i]

Hi
1) first name of my cat=نام کوچک گربه ام
2) name of my first cat=نام اولین گربه ام

Be careful نام اول or اولین نام is not a suitable equivalent for "first name" in Farsi.[/quote]

well, it changes much.
so i understand that نام اول or اولین نام means that: for example i called cat as 'Schweine' but my girl didnt like it and made me to change it for 'Kitty' and not to use the first one anymore, so question:
چه اولین نام گربه ات بود؟
would be gut.
if a man's full name is "John Mark Smith" and I want to know his first name i would ask him: چه نامت کوچک است؟ .
following this how would i ask for his second name and surname?

setak Friday 24th of February 2006 07:41:00 PM
In the name of God - Hi
[quote]oh so then it's not like in English? then is the last name considered as the 'big' name since the first is considred small? [/quote]

No, Use «نام خانوادگی» or «فامیل» instead. Big name is meaningless.

[quote]well, it changes much.
so i understand that نام اول or اولین نام means that: for example i called cat as 'Schweine' but my girl didnt like it and made me to change it for 'Kitty' and not to use the first one anymore, so question:
چه اولین نام گربه ات بود؟
would be gut. [/quote]

،To correct grammatical error:
«اولین نام گربه ات چه بود؟» and also it is better to say: «نام قبلی گربه ات چه بود؟»

[quote]
if a man's full name is "John Mark Smith" and I want to know his first name i would ask him: چه نامت کوچک است؟ .
following this how would i ask for his second name and surname? [/quote]

This sentence grammatically is not correct.
Consider this sentence:
«نام کوچکت چیست؟ »

Good Luck

tsahyalakum Tuesday 09th of May 2006 03:35:26 AM
- ya mitavanid beguid, shayad,

esm gorbeye man ... ast.
ya
esm avalin gorbeye man ... ast.

esm oo che ast?
ya
name khanevadegiye oo che ast?

Dorost hast?

Phrasebase Archive
	blueboar	Saturday 18th of February 2006 07:43:43 PM
	ezafet construction - Hi, i was wondering about difference of the 2 sentences in persian. How should i say: 1) first name of my cat 2) name of my first cat I'm not sure, but using my feeling for language i would say: (forgive me lack of persian fonts) 1)nAm e avval e gorbeam or avvalin nAm e gorbeam 2)nAm e gorbeam e avval or nAm e avvalin gorbeam am i right?
	Paul8	Monday 20th of February 2006 06:30:29 AM
	- Your translations are correct. Your sentences would look like this in Persian: 1:نام اول گربه‌ام - اولین نام گربه‌ام نام گربه‌ام - نام اولین گربه‌ام:2
	Paul8	Monday 20th of February 2006 06:30:40 AM
	- Your translations are correct. Your sentences would look like this in Persian: 1:نام اول گربه‌ام - اولین نام گربه‌ام 2:نام گربه‌ام اول - نام اولین گربه‌ام
	setak	Tuesday 21st of February 2006 10:41:59 AM
	In the name of God - Hi 1) first name of my cat=نام کوچک گربه ام 2) name of my first cat=نام اولین گربه ام Be careful نام اول or اولین نام is not a suitable equivalent for "first name" in Farsi.
	Paul8	Tuesday 21st of February 2006 02:39:35 PM
	- oh so then it's not like in English? then is the last name considered as the 'big' name since the first is considred small?
	blueboar	Tuesday 21st of February 2006 11:15:46 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by setak[/i] Hi 1) first name of my cat=نام کوچک گربه ام 2) name of my first cat=نام اولین گربه ام Be careful نام اول or اولین نام is not a suitable equivalent for "first name" in Farsi.[/quote] well, it changes much. so i understand that نام اول or اولین نام means that: for example i called cat as 'Schweine' but my girl didnt like it and made me to change it for 'Kitty' and not to use the first one anymore, so question: چه اولین نام گربه ات بود؟ would be gut. if a man's full name is "John Mark Smith" and I want to know his first name i would ask him: چه نامت کوچک است؟ . following this how would i ask for his second name and surname?
	setak	Friday 24th of February 2006 07:41:00 PM
	In the name of God - Hi [quote]oh so then it's not like in English? then is the last name considered as the 'big' name since the first is considred small? [/quote] No, Use «نام خانوادگی» or «فامیل» instead. Big name is meaningless. [quote]well, it changes much. so i understand that نام اول or اولین نام means that: for example i called cat as 'Schweine' but my girl didnt like it and made me to change it for 'Kitty' and not to use the first one anymore, so question: چه اولین نام گربه ات بود؟ would be gut. [/quote] ،To correct grammatical error: «اولین نام گربه ات چه بود؟» and also it is better to say: «نام قبلی گربه ات چه بود؟» [quote] if a man's full name is "John Mark Smith" and I want to know his first name i would ask him: چه نامت کوچک است؟ . following this how would i ask for his second name and surname? [/quote] This sentence grammatically is not correct. Consider this sentence: «نام کوچکت چیست؟ » Good Luck
	tsahyalakum	Tuesday 09th of May 2006 03:35:26 AM
	- ya mitavanid beguid, shayad, esm gorbeye man ... ast. ya esm avalin gorbeye man ... ast. esm oo che ast? ya name khanevadegiye oo che ast? Dorost hast?