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| mmiriam | Thursday 12th of January 2006 07:56:06 PM |
| Any Greeks here?? - I could say that i am sad that people are not intrested in learnign greek. Why is that?? Or they are and i have not seen it?? I am curious how people see greek language. Cheers | |
| bkooper84 | Friday 13th of January 2006 02:07:37 AM |
| Would anyone like to help? - ti kanis........i want to learn greek....i know some already anyone intrested in helping??? repost or email me please:) bkooper84@aol.com | |
| Panos | Friday 13th of January 2006 05:09:19 AM |
| - Hello to both of you and welcome to the Greek forum. Mmiriam, it is not like people are not interested in learning Greek, there are some people from time to time that post here and want to learn the language but the truth is that with only posting lessons in text (without audio examples ) as i did also makes them loose their starting enthusiasm in a short time. I am thinking this time of how to link audio examples that i'll record with others sites, something like magika did. I don't know how the 'translating phrases' posts are helpfull for people that are starters, like [b]bkooper84[/b] here. Perhaps i should ask her.Have you read the lessons posted in this forum? How do you like it? Να είστε καλά | |
| magica | Friday 13th of January 2006 01:13:20 PM |
| - Panos 74, I can record some things, but I dont speak so good english to explain greek grammar and other things. Also, i am alone and I cant record dialogues for them. I dont know If you can think something to do, and help the people who want learn our language. Φιλιά | |
| mmiriam | Friday 13th of January 2006 08:28:33 PM |
| Any Greeks Here?? - Hello magica, Panos74 and bkooper84, i understand the difficulty of learning greek or any other language with just reading text. It is the same for me too now that i am trying to learn Dutch. An idea that it just came to me is that we can in a way; which i' ll try to think how later, to post songs.greek songs that have nice words and meanings. so people can start from there. Songs helped me a lot when i was studying italian. I do not know how easy or how good this idea is. In this way they can learn simple phrases and words. And we can provide also links from newspapers and grammar. So for the moment that is my suggestion to the one who wants to learn greek. What do you say?? Filia Miriam | |
| JimD | Sunday 15th of January 2006 03:56:27 PM |
| - Γειά σασ! This site has some great people on it who are willing to help people like me learn Greek. To them, ευχαρισώ πολύ! As for the best way to learn? On line text and audio lessons are a great help, but really you need to converse with a real person to practice what you have learnt and get the feel for the language. Not everyone has access to a college that runs classes, but if you have, go for it! Our local college does, and I start on the 28th Jan for a series of 10 weekly Greek classes (which I'm really looking forward to). If you can't get to classes, find a parter on line to practice with (either using email or one of the voice packages). There are a load of links on this page (it's the website of the teacher who's class I will be taking):- [url=http://www.nerantzi.freeserve.co.uk/ch_greek.htm]Chrissi Nerantzi Website[/url] Miriam, I think you're right about songs; I find it very useful to listen to songs on greek radio. When people talk on radio at full speed I can't follow it at all, but the words go very slowly in a song. | |
| serbian16 | Saturday 21st of January 2006 07:43:49 PM |
| ulalalala - greek is the worst language ı have ever seen.its so rude.ı hate it | |
| JimD | Saturday 21st of January 2006 09:57:36 PM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by serbian16[/i] greek is the worst language ı have ever seen.its so rude.ı hate it[/quote] SO your reason for posting on the Greek forum is ....what, exactly?? To give us the benefit of your wisdom? | |
| Nizou | Sunday 22nd of January 2006 07:27:02 AM |
| Greek songs to learn Greek - Για σασ! I'm a Greek learner and I find it a great idea to learn Greek through songs, and I love so much Greek songs. Ok here are the lyrics of a song from Antonis Remos, Μια αναπνοή, a beautiful love song I like very much: Αν είχα μόνο μια ευχή θα ήταν να σε ξαναδώ Αν είχα μόνο μια στιγμή θα ήταν να 'σουν εδώ Αν είχα μόνο ένα φιλί σε σένα θα το έδινα Αν είχα μόνο μια αφορμή τη θάλασσα σου θα έπινα Αν είχα μόνο μια βουτιά στο κύμα σου πνιγόμουνα Αν είχα μόνο μια ματιά μετά ας τυφλωνόμουνα Αν είχα τρόπο ο τρελός φεγγάρι θα σε στόλιζα Αν είχα του ουρανού το φως εσένανε θα φώτιζα Μα έχω μονάχα μια καρδιά που έτσι ξέρει ν' αγαπά Έχω μονάχα μια ψυχή μες στο δικό σου το κορμί Αν είχα μια αναπνοή εσένα θα ανέσταινα και ύστερα ας πέθαινα Αν είχα μόνο μια βραδιά για σένα θα ξενύχταγα Αν είχα ένα όνειρο για σένα θα το φύλαγα Αν είχα μόνο ένα λεπτό σε σένα θα το χάριζα Αν είχα μόνο μια ζωή για σένα θα τη χαράμιζα Μα έχω μονάχα μια καρδια... We can start by translating it little by little? Γεια! | |
| JimD | Sunday 22nd of January 2006 04:22:34 PM |
| - Nice one, Nizou. The only problem is, I don't know what the tune is! :) | |
| JimD | Sunday 22nd of January 2006 07:38:55 PM |
| - OK, I reckon the first line is: If I had only one wish it would be to see you again :) | |
| manoula | Monday 23rd of January 2006 07:58:37 AM |
| - This is one of my favorites: Αν είχα μόνο μια ευχή θα ήταν να σε ξαναδώ If I had only one wish, it would be to see you again Αν είχα μόνο μια στιγμή θα ήταν να 'σουν εδώ If I had only one moment, it would be for you to be here Αν είχα μόνο ένα φιλί σε σένα θα το έδινα If I had only one kiss, to you I would give it Αν είχα μόνο μια αφορμή τη θάλασσα σου θα έπινα If I had only one motivation, your sea I would drink Αν είχα μόνο μια βουτιά στο κύμα σου πνιγόμουνα If I had only one dive, in your wave I would drown Αν είχα μόνο μια ματιά μετά ας τυφλωνόμουνα If only I had one look, and then let me go blind Αν είχα τρόπο ο τρελός φεγγάρι θα σε στόλιζα If crazy me had the ability, the moon I would adorn you with Αν είχα του ουρανού το φως εσένανε θα φώτιζα If I had the sky's light, you I would illuminate Μα έχω μονάχα μια καρδιά που έτσι ξέρει ν' αγαπά Oh, I have only one heart, that knows how to love Έχω μονάχα μια ψυχή μες στο δικό σου το κορμί I have only one soul in your body Αν είχα μια αναπνοή εσένα θα ανέσταινα If I had one breath, I would breath it into you και ύστερα ας πέθαινα And then let me die. Αν είχα μόνο μια βραδιά για σένα θα ξενύχταγα If I had only one night, for you I would not sleep Αν είχα ένα όνειρο για σένα θα το φύλαγα If I had only one dream, for you I would save it Αν είχα μόνο ένα λεπτό σε σένα θα το χάριζα If I had only one minute, to you I would give it Αν είχα μόνο μια ζωή για σένα θα τη χαράμιζα If I had only one life, for you I would destroy it Μα έχω μονάχα μια καρδια... Oh, I have only one heart... | |
| manoula | Tuesday 24th of January 2006 07:42:52 AM |
| - Ο Aετός- Notis Sfakianakis Και vα μoυ κάψεις τα φτερά vα μηv ξαvπετάξω απ' της φωτιάς μoυ τov καπvό πάλι ψηλά θα φτάσω. Ο αετός πεθαίvει στov αέρα ελεύθερoς και δυvατός της απovιάς όταv τov βρίσκει σφαίρα τov αγκαλιάζει o ουρανός. Τo αετίσιο δάκρυ μoυ στo χώμα δεv θα φτάvει θα με ζητάς τα δειλιvά κι ύπvoς δεv θα σε πιάvει. | |
| magica | Wednesday 25th of January 2006 12:53:34 PM |
| - very nice manoula :) Beside songs, I try to make better my english with Wikipedia I write in greek wikipedia and I translate from english to greek http://www.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org - the english wikipedia http://el.wikipedia.org - the greek wikipedia you can find wikipedia for your language and try to translate something from one language to other. greek lyrics here: www.kithara.vu (it have and the chords) | |
| magica | Wednesday 25th of January 2006 01:03:57 PM |
| - and something else for serbian16 who said in his profile that he born in Istanbul.... You can't talk about Greek language, you are too "small" to talk about this language and about Greek Civilization. Greece and Turkey had war for many years and I understand that maybe you feel strange with this. But you must read about this language one day... and then you will understand what the Greek language is. | |
| JimD | Thursday 26th of January 2006 01:30:51 AM |
| - Well, apart from the fact that it's about an eagle and the first line mentions feathers, it's got me stumped as far as a tranlation goes! | |
| magica | Thursday 26th of January 2006 03:25:23 AM |
| - it is an allegoric song, the eagle is one man JimD, you can continue your translation | |
| manoula | Saturday 28th of January 2006 07:10:50 AM |
| - Και vα μoυ κάψεις τα φτερά And if you burn my feathers | |
| JimD | Saturday 28th of January 2006 03:07:11 PM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by manoula[/i] Και vα μoυ κάψεις τα φτερά And if you burn my feathers[/quote] Ah, I couldn't get the sense out of that line. Is the word order unusual to fit in with the song? I'm finding it difficult to tranlate! I can get most of the individual words, but it's making sense of it that's difficult. | |
| mmiriam | Saturday 28th of January 2006 05:21:23 PM |
| - well basicly it is not feathers it is wings. I think that wings suits better with the song but yeah Jim it does not make the best sense ever. It is a weard song | |
| Nizou | Saturday 04th of February 2006 04:39:51 AM |
| - Well I can see that it's interesting to learn Greek by translating Greek songs, here is another one I like so much. My favorite singer, Michalis Xatzigiannis, Krifa (κρυφά): Κρυφά σ'ένα στενό είδα αυτό που ευχόμουν να μην το δω. Εσύ με άλλουν μαζί μοιάζει εικόνα αστεία και τραγική. Κρυφά σ'ένα στενό ένα κουβαρί είστ' αγκαλιά και οι δυο. Εδώ πώς να σταθώ τι είναι για σένα και τι είμαι κι εγώ. Αυτό που τόσο φοβάμαι ο τρίτος δεν θελώ να 'μαι. Κι απόψε μόνος κοιμάμαι δεν θελώ ο τρίτος πια να μαι. Σ'αυτό το δρόμο που πάμε δεν θελώ ο τριτός πια να 'μαι. Δειλά σ'έναν γκρεμό είδα να πέφτώ πριν καλά το σκεφτώ. Με θες, μα θες πιο πολλά ποια είναι τα μέτρα σου και ποια η σιγουριά. :-)) | |
| manoula | Monday 06th of February 2006 08:27:45 AM |
| - Ο Aετός- Notis Sfakianakis Και vα μoυ κάψεις τα φτερά And if you burn my feathers vα μηv ξαvαπετάξω To never fly again, απ' της φωτιάς μoυ τov καπvό From the smoke of the fire πάλι ψηλά θα φτάσω. Again high I'll fly Ο αετός πεθαίvει στov αέρα The Eagle dies in the air (as in "I died and to heaven") ελεύθερoς και δυvατός Free and strong | |
| manoula | Monday 06th of February 2006 08:34:36 AM |
| - Κρυφά σ'ένα στενό είδα αυτό που ευχόμουν να μην το δω. Εσύ με άλλουν μαζί μοιάζει εικόνα αστεία και τραγική. Secretly in an alley I saw that which I whished I would not see You with another man Resembling a joke (as in the joke is on you) and tragic icon | |
| manoula | Friday 17th of February 2006 08:46:57 PM |
| - της απovιάς όταv τov βρίσκει σφαίρα τov αγκαλιάζει o ουρανός. Τo αετίσιο δάκρυ μoυ στo χώμα δεv θα φτάvει θα με ζητάς τα δειλιvά κι ύπvoς δεv θα σε πιάvει. Painless when a bullet finds him He is hugged by the sky My Eagle tear The soil it will not reach You will ask for me evenings And sleep will not catch you (idiomatically: you will be sleepless) | |
| nikolaidis | Monday 20th of February 2006 12:49:24 PM |
| New member - Hi, friends. I subscribed PhraseBase minutes ago. I'm Brazilian, but my family came from Kalymnos. I'm a greek dancer in Sao Paulo. I started to learn three years ago and I made the Basic Program - the only available. Unfortunately, nobody else in my family speaks Greek nor intend to learn. So, it's still difficult. I agree with the fellows that are posting lyrics. This is an excelent method. This is how I learnt English. I have hundreds of Greek songs in my computer and this help me a lot with the accent and understanding. Nice to meet you all! And I want to make Greek friends (and from other countries, of course)! My e-mail address is riograndedaserra@yahoo.com.br Διγενής Νικολαΐδης ************************** My photos from Greece: http://nikolaidis.multiply.com/photos My Greek Dances Group: www.zorbas.com.br Photos of my group: http://zorbas.multiply.com/photos | |
| squeak | Tuesday 16th of May 2006 02:56:37 AM |
| - Hi people, I\'ve just registered for this. I\'ve been slowly trying to learn Greek for a couple of years (unfortunately I\'ve not had much time recently!). I work with Greeks and have friends over in Greece. The frineds came before the work. Anyway, There\'s always Greek music and I\'ve started to get the CDs I like, e.g.Αντώνης Ρέμος, Γιάννης Πλούταρχος, Μάνος Πυροβολάκης and Νίκος Βέρτης, and then try to find the lyrics and translate them. Then somebody gets caught to correct the translation! I\'ve found this really helps as you tend to pick out common words in the songs, learn more vocabulary and your ability to understand Greek when it\'s spoken seems to improve over time doing this also. Well, it does if you listen to the songs on a regular basis. | |
