Greek Split Infinitives Correct Or Not?

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detbarn Thursday 29th of December 2005 04:00:15 PM
split infinitives - Would it be incorrect to use split infinitves such as in "να συχνά δει"?

Panos Thursday 29th of December 2005 11:31:01 PM
- Hi detbarn
I don't know what the term 'split infinitives' means.
The phrase "να συχνά δει" is incorrect. The correct is "να δει συχνά" as in the phrase "Δεν μπορεί [b]να δει συχνά[/b] τους γονείς του επειδή είναι μακριά" - (He) can't see often his parents because he is far away.

Osman Thursday 29th of December 2005 11:53:24 PM
- kalimera Panos!

i hope this works , my friend

[quote]by Merriam Webster online dictionary
Main Entry: split infinitive
Function: noun
: an infinitive with to having a modifier between the to and the verbal (as in "to really start")[/quote]

Take care arkadaşım! ;)

detbarn Friday 30th of December 2005 12:15:10 PM
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detbarn Friday 30th of December 2005 12:16:53 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by panos74[/i]
The phrase "να συχνά δει" is incorrect.[/quote]
What about "συχνά να δει" and "να δεν [verb]"?

Panos Saturday 31st of December 2005 09:09:40 PM
- Teşekkür ederim Osman
I guess the word that is between "to" and the verb is usually/always an adverb, isn't it?

[quote]
What about "συχνά να δει" and "να δεν [verb]"?
[/quote]
The "συχνά να δει" is correct, it can be used in a phrase like
"Του τυχαίνει συχνά να δει..." - "It happens frequently to him to see...".

Now, the form "να δεν [verb]" is not correct because the negative particle "δεν" is not used in this case. It is correct if you use the negative particle "μη(ν)" which is like "not" in English, i.e. "να μη δει... " - "not to see...". The negative particle "δεν" is like "does not" in English (usually).

Take care guys, and Happy New Year to everybody
Καλή Χρονιά σε όλους - Kali Hronia se olus

JimD Monday 02nd of January 2006 08:52:36 PM
- That's a good explanation of the differnce between δεν και μην, Πανο. Ευχαριστώ.

Split infinitives remind me of Star Trek...to boldly go where no man..etc. :)

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	detbarn	Thursday 29th of December 2005 04:00:15 PM
	split infinitives - Would it be incorrect to use split infinitves such as in "να συχνά δει"?
	Panos	Thursday 29th of December 2005 11:31:01 PM
	- Hi detbarn I don't know what the term 'split infinitives' means. The phrase "να συχνά δει" is incorrect. The correct is "να δει συχνά" as in the phrase "Δεν μπορεί [b]να δει συχνά[/b] τους γονείς του επειδή είναι μακριά" - (He) can't see often his parents because he is far away.
	Osman	Thursday 29th of December 2005 11:53:24 PM
	- kalimera Panos! i hope this works , my friend [quote]by Merriam Webster online dictionary Main Entry: split infinitive Function: noun : an infinitive with to having a modifier between the to and the verbal (as in "to really start")[/quote] Take care arkadaşım! ;)
	detbarn	Friday 30th of December 2005 12:15:10 PM
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	detbarn	Friday 30th of December 2005 12:16:53 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by panos74[/i] The phrase "να συχνά δει" is incorrect.[/quote] What about "συχνά να δει" and "να δεν [verb]"?
	Panos	Saturday 31st of December 2005 09:09:40 PM
	- Teşekkür ederim Osman I guess the word that is between "to" and the verb is usually/always an adverb, isn't it? [quote] What about "συχνά να δει" and "να δεν [verb]"? [/quote] The "συχνά να δει" is correct, it can be used in a phrase like "Του τυχαίνει συχνά να δει..." - "It happens frequently to him to see...". Now, the form "να δεν [verb]" is not correct because the negative particle "δεν" is not used in this case. It is correct if you use the negative particle "μη(ν)" which is like "not" in English, i.e. "να μη δει... " - "not to see...". The negative particle "δεν" is like "does not" in English (usually). Take care guys, and Happy New Year to everybody Καλή Χρονιά σε όλους - Kali Hronia se olus
	JimD	Monday 02nd of January 2006 08:52:36 PM
	- That's a good explanation of the differnce between δεν και μην, Πανο. Ευχαριστώ. Split infinitives remind me of Star Trek...to boldly go where no man..etc. :)