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Danial Monday 21st of August 2006 09:17:44 PM
Latin: The Easy Way - Salve!

I found this great site for anyone who is interested in learning latin:

http://www.cherryh.com/www/latin1.htm

Latin explained in a simple manner without all those grammar rules being thrown at you! :D

Enjoy!
Danial

Alec: \"I\'m sorry to add something to this of Danial\'s (several) posts, but I must make people notice that the site above contains many mistakes. In my opinion it is exaggerately innovative.\"

Kemet Tuesday 05th of September 2006 05:14:22 AM
- Thanks

Alec Wednesday 06th of September 2006 04:53:08 AM
- Salve Danial!
Cum non modum tuum docendi linguam latinam mediocrem putem, dicere debeo dictata tua multos errores habere. De hoc vellem tecum loqui si liber.

Danial Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:30:30 AM
- Salve! :)

I don\'t mean to ignore you Alec, but I just didn\'t understand your last Latin sentence, I don\'t know much latin yet :(.

Alec Wednesday 06th of September 2006 09:46:57 PM
- Oh sorry Danial. I didn\'t read carefully the post you wrote, so I thought that the site you indicated was your site. So, the post I wrote isn\'t meant to be read by you, but by the owner of that site.
However, the sentence means: \"Even if I appreciate your method of teaching Latin, I\'d like to let you note that there are many mistakes. I\'d like to talk with you about that\"

Danial Wednesday 06th of September 2006 09:53:01 PM
- Hehe:p It\'s alright :)

Well, I don\'t know about the mistakes. :p If you want, you could point them out here so that students won\'t be misled, but it\'s should be fine:)

Hmm... maybe we could create some latin games here. :D But of course my Latin is zero :p

Alec Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:01:43 PM
- I\'d be very glad to do both of the things you have suggested. Have you any idea about what type of games we could create?

Besides this, the first error I noticed, was about the number of the cases. A Latin teacher should know very well that there are 6 cases and not 5 as he says.

Danial Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:06:15 PM
- Hmm...

- conjugation exercises
- declension exercises
- and of course, the ever popular \"The person below me\" :D but in Latin!!! :D

Hmm... perhaps she forgotten to mention the Vocative case? :p

jvz8a Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:15:21 PM
- Sorry to be nosy here.. but.. my eternal problem is vocabulary. I\'d like to be able to learn and practice it. The cases.. mmm... yes, too. But.. without much vocabulary, I don\'t have much to decline :p

Danial Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:19:19 PM
- Nah, you\'re not nosy :D You\'re welcome here :D The more students there is, the more we can learn together :D

Hmm... of course we could create vocabulary games :)

Alec Thursday 07th of September 2006 02:57:10 AM
- You are absolutely right Jvz, the problem of the vocabulary is very common. Many Latin teachers don\'t pay attention to this.
I think we could start from the family names:
(I’ve indicated the gender of each word with f or m)
Mother: Mater, matris f.
Father: Pater, patris m.
Brother: Frater, fratris m.
Sister: Soror, sororis f.
Son: Filius, filii m.
Daughter: Filia, filiae f.
Grandmother: Avia, aviae f.
Grandfather: Avus, avi m.
Grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew: Nepos, nepotis m.
Father-in-law: Socer, soceri m.
Mother-in-law: Socrus, socrus f.
Uncle (brother of the father): Patruus, patrui m.
Uncle (brother of the mother): Avunculus, avunculi m.
Aunt (sister of the father): Amita, amitae f.
Aunt (sister of the mother): Matertera, materterae f.
Cousin (male): Consobrinus, consobrini m.
Cousin (female): Consobrina, consobrinae f.
Son-in-law: Gener, generi m.
Daughter-in-law: Nurus, nurus f.
Husband: Maritus, mariti m.
Wife: Uxor, uxoris f.
I think that’s enough for now. Feel free to correct or to ask me for anything.

Danial Thursday 07th of September 2006 07:46:36 PM
- Hmm... whats the difference between, mater and matris, etc...?

Singular and plural?

jvz8a Thursday 07th of September 2006 07:56:55 PM
- Thanks for the list. It won\'t be so difficult, as meny resemble Spanish words :D

No, Danial. When you \"name\" (sorry, I don\'t know the word in English) a noun, you say the nominative singular and the genitive singular, so you can know to which of five noun groups the noun belongs to. The genitve gives the clue:
First group: genitive singular ends in -ae
Second group: genitive singular ends in -i
Third group: genitive singular ends in -is
Fourth group: genitive singular ends in -us
Fifth gruop: genitive singular ends in -ei.

That\'s why, in that list, we need to know both: to know how to decline it (each group follows a special pattern).

Danial Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:03:38 PM
- Ah... don\'t kill me but I\'m still a little confused :p :S

Hmm... so it\'s according to,

Nominative singular and genitive singular, right?

Wow, 5 groups to decline :S

jvz8a Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:12:55 PM
- Yes, the first element is nominative singular and the second is genitive singular.

lol to decline those... I am hoping it won\'t be too hard :D I think practice will make us not to worry about that. Vocative is almost always the same as nominative. Accussative is an easy one (easier than genitive, if I may say). So... we only have ablative and dative left.
I already know all this stuff about the cases, but it certainly is not enough to make me start using it.

Danial Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:16:52 PM
- Hehe :D So shall we create a game in the Latin Forum for declension then? :D But I have no idea how to start :p due to my lack of knowledge.

jvz8a Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:20:59 PM
- I have to go now. If I find exercises, I\'ll start a thread so we can practice.

Danial Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:21:58 PM
- Sure :D Can\'t wait! See ya :)

Alec Thursday 07th of September 2006 09:14:05 PM
- Hi everybody! It\'s again me. I\'d like to decline some names because they are not regular.
The first is Mater
Singular:
Mater
Matris
Matri
Matrem
Mater
Matre

Plural:
Matres
Matrum
Matribus
Matres
Matres
Matribus

The irregularity is in the Genitive plural: it is matrum and NOT matrium. The words \"pater, patris\", \"frater, fratris\", \"senex, senis (old man)\", \"canis, canis (dog)\" are irregular in the same way.

The second name is Filius, filii.
Singular:
Filius
Filii (or Fili)
Filio
Filium
Fili
Filio

Plural:
Filii
Filiorum
Filiis
Filios
Filii
Filiis

The irregularities are two: The Vocative Singular (Fili and NOT filie) and the Genitive singular.

Danial Friday 08th of September 2006 02:19:20 AM
- So it\'s according to:

Nominative
Genitive
Dative
Accusative
Ablative
Vocative

:D

Oh and where do you learn all this!!! :D School, classes! :p And don\'t tell me you though them yourself! It\'s too hard! :p

Alec Friday 08th of September 2006 04:32:27 AM
- You are right. You wrote all the cases in the correct order.

I learnt all this at school. My Latin teacher was incredibly good. But I must admit that I have a special interest for Latin.

Danial Friday 08th of September 2006 12:38:10 PM
- Wow! :D

Well, I hope you share with us what you learn with your Latin teacher? :)

Oh, well, on the first day of class, what did he taught you guys?

Alec Friday 08th of September 2006 06:14:28 PM
- The first day of school she talked about the accents, about the classification of the consonants, and about the division of words in syllables. If you want I can write something about these topics

Danial Friday 08th of September 2006 09:21:25 PM
- Sure, that would be cool :) as long as it\'s no trouble for you at all. :)

Alec Friday 08th of September 2006 10:20:02 PM
- It\'s no trouble for me at all. I\'m very happy to share my knowledge. But if you agree, I\'d like to create another topic so that everything will be more visible.

Danial Friday 08th of September 2006 10:21:26 PM
- Sure! Of course :)

Oh, hai msn messenger? :) Se sì, PM me :D

Phrasebase Archive
	Danial	Monday 21st of August 2006 09:17:44 PM
	Latin: The Easy Way - Salve! I found this great site for anyone who is interested in learning latin: http://www.cherryh.com/www/latin1.htm Latin explained in a simple manner without all those grammar rules being thrown at you! :D Enjoy! Danial Alec: \"I\'m sorry to add something to this of Danial\'s (several) posts, but I must make people notice that the site above contains many mistakes. In my opinion it is exaggerately innovative.\"
	Kemet	Tuesday 05th of September 2006 05:14:22 AM
	- Thanks
	Alec	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 04:53:08 AM
	- Salve Danial! Cum non modum tuum docendi linguam latinam mediocrem putem, dicere debeo dictata tua multos errores habere. De hoc vellem tecum loqui si liber.
	Danial	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:30:30 AM
	- Salve! :) I don\'t mean to ignore you Alec, but I just didn\'t understand your last Latin sentence, I don\'t know much latin yet :(.
	Alec	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 09:46:57 PM
	- Oh sorry Danial. I didn\'t read carefully the post you wrote, so I thought that the site you indicated was your site. So, the post I wrote isn\'t meant to be read by you, but by the owner of that site. However, the sentence means: \"Even if I appreciate your method of teaching Latin, I\'d like to let you note that there are many mistakes. I\'d like to talk with you about that\"
	Danial	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 09:53:01 PM
	- Hehe:p It\'s alright :) Well, I don\'t know about the mistakes. :p If you want, you could point them out here so that students won\'t be misled, but it\'s should be fine:) Hmm... maybe we could create some latin games here. :D But of course my Latin is zero :p
	Alec	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:01:43 PM
	- I\'d be very glad to do both of the things you have suggested. Have you any idea about what type of games we could create? Besides this, the first error I noticed, was about the number of the cases. A Latin teacher should know very well that there are 6 cases and not 5 as he says.
	Danial	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:06:15 PM
	- Hmm... - conjugation exercises - declension exercises - and of course, the ever popular \"The person below me\" :D but in Latin!!! :D Hmm... perhaps she forgotten to mention the Vocative case? :p
	jvz8a	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:15:21 PM
	- Sorry to be nosy here.. but.. my eternal problem is vocabulary. I\'d like to be able to learn and practice it. The cases.. mmm... yes, too. But.. without much vocabulary, I don\'t have much to decline :p
	Danial	Wednesday 06th of September 2006 10:19:19 PM
	- Nah, you\'re not nosy :D You\'re welcome here :D The more students there is, the more we can learn together :D Hmm... of course we could create vocabulary games :)
	Alec	Thursday 07th of September 2006 02:57:10 AM
	- You are absolutely right Jvz, the problem of the vocabulary is very common. Many Latin teachers don\'t pay attention to this. I think we could start from the family names: (I’ve indicated the gender of each word with f or m) Mother: Mater, matris f. Father: Pater, patris m. Brother: Frater, fratris m. Sister: Soror, sororis f. Son: Filius, filii m. Daughter: Filia, filiae f. Grandmother: Avia, aviae f. Grandfather: Avus, avi m. Grandson, granddaughter, niece, nephew: Nepos, nepotis m. Father-in-law: Socer, soceri m. Mother-in-law: Socrus, socrus f. Uncle (brother of the father): Patruus, patrui m. Uncle (brother of the mother): Avunculus, avunculi m. Aunt (sister of the father): Amita, amitae f. Aunt (sister of the mother): Matertera, materterae f. Cousin (male): Consobrinus, consobrini m. Cousin (female): Consobrina, consobrinae f. Son-in-law: Gener, generi m. Daughter-in-law: Nurus, nurus f. Husband: Maritus, mariti m. Wife: Uxor, uxoris f. I think that’s enough for now. Feel free to correct or to ask me for anything.
	Danial	Thursday 07th of September 2006 07:46:36 PM
	- Hmm... whats the difference between, mater and matris, etc...? Singular and plural?
	jvz8a	Thursday 07th of September 2006 07:56:55 PM
	- Thanks for the list. It won\'t be so difficult, as meny resemble Spanish words :D No, Danial. When you \"name\" (sorry, I don\'t know the word in English) a noun, you say the nominative singular and the genitive singular, so you can know to which of five noun groups the noun belongs to. The genitve gives the clue: First group: genitive singular ends in -ae Second group: genitive singular ends in -i Third group: genitive singular ends in -is Fourth group: genitive singular ends in -us Fifth gruop: genitive singular ends in -ei. That\'s why, in that list, we need to know both: to know how to decline it (each group follows a special pattern).
	Danial	Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:03:38 PM
	- Ah... don\'t kill me but I\'m still a little confused :p :S Hmm... so it\'s according to, Nominative singular and genitive singular, right? Wow, 5 groups to decline :S
	jvz8a	Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:12:55 PM
	- Yes, the first element is nominative singular and the second is genitive singular. lol to decline those... I am hoping it won\'t be too hard :D I think practice will make us not to worry about that. Vocative is almost always the same as nominative. Accussative is an easy one (easier than genitive, if I may say). So... we only have ablative and dative left. I already know all this stuff about the cases, but it certainly is not enough to make me start using it.
	Danial	Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:16:52 PM
	- Hehe :D So shall we create a game in the Latin Forum for declension then? :D But I have no idea how to start :p due to my lack of knowledge.
	jvz8a	Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:20:59 PM
	- I have to go now. If I find exercises, I\'ll start a thread so we can practice.
	Danial	Thursday 07th of September 2006 08:21:58 PM
	- Sure :D Can\'t wait! See ya :)
	Alec	Thursday 07th of September 2006 09:14:05 PM
	- Hi everybody! It\'s again me. I\'d like to decline some names because they are not regular. The first is Mater Singular: Mater Matris Matri Matrem Mater Matre Plural: Matres Matrum Matribus Matres Matres Matribus The irregularity is in the Genitive plural: it is matrum and NOT matrium. The words \"pater, patris\", \"frater, fratris\", \"senex, senis (old man)\", \"canis, canis (dog)\" are irregular in the same way. The second name is Filius, filii. Singular: Filius Filii (or Fili) Filio Filium Fili Filio Plural: Filii Filiorum Filiis Filios Filii Filiis The irregularities are two: The Vocative Singular (Fili and NOT filie) and the Genitive singular.
	Danial	Friday 08th of September 2006 02:19:20 AM
	- So it\'s according to: Nominative Genitive Dative Accusative Ablative Vocative :D Oh and where do you learn all this!!! :D School, classes! :p And don\'t tell me you though them yourself! It\'s too hard! :p
	Alec	Friday 08th of September 2006 04:32:27 AM
	- You are right. You wrote all the cases in the correct order. I learnt all this at school. My Latin teacher was incredibly good. But I must admit that I have a special interest for Latin.
	Danial	Friday 08th of September 2006 12:38:10 PM
	- Wow! :D Well, I hope you share with us what you learn with your Latin teacher? :) Oh, well, on the first day of class, what did he taught you guys?
	Alec	Friday 08th of September 2006 06:14:28 PM
	- The first day of school she talked about the accents, about the classification of the consonants, and about the division of words in syllables. If you want I can write something about these topics
	Danial	Friday 08th of September 2006 09:21:25 PM
	- Sure, that would be cool :) as long as it\'s no trouble for you at all. :)
	Alec	Friday 08th of September 2006 10:20:02 PM
	- It\'s no trouble for me at all. I\'m very happy to share my knowledge. But if you agree, I\'d like to create another topic so that everything will be more visible.
	Danial	Friday 08th of September 2006 10:21:26 PM
	- Sure! Of course :) Oh, hai msn messenger? :) Se sì, PM me :D