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Avaldi
Tuesday 29th of January 2008 05:15:48 AM
Tourism in your country: I don't understand why some people go to other countries and they have troubles with natives, and some others try to be in this country as in their homelands: they don't respect any tradition.

When I travel to a foreign country, I try to be a normal person. I don't have any trouble and I try to follow their traditions and learn the local language.

Some people who come to Spain (some English and Germans, for example) just come here to have troubles. They drink a lot and they break things. I'm not saying everyone who comes here is crazy, but most of them just speak in their languages and they never respect our traditions, and neither they want to make an effort and learn about us, as we should learn about them (because every culture has it positive part, and we should learn about it).

Do tourists make trouble in your country? Do they try to "mix-up" theirselfs with the local people or they just have fun?


Dominick_Korshanyenko
Tuesday 29th of January 2008 07:59:01 AM
Tourism can and can't be a problem in Florida. Tourists give a lot of money to our economy and make Florida have a lot of success. Disney, the Everglades, Saint Augustine, the beaches rivers and lakes, the Keys, and our year round warm climate brings millions of tourists every year. (If not more!) Along with these tourists come some problems too. Tourists in Florida have no respect for beaches. In off seasons the beaches are beautiful and clean, but when tourists come they often leave trash everywhere, pollute, and disturb animals in their natural habitats. Floridian tourists also cause huge traffic jams and annoy natives with just little things they do.

I; however, try to like you, be respectful, learn the language and do everything that I can to not be a nuisance but instead a delight. As the saying goes:

"When in Rome do as the Romans do"

There's my opinion. :D

P.S. I hope to visit Spain someday hopefully I won't be a terrible tourist, or drunk like the English. :ha


djr33
Tuesday 29th of January 2008 02:27:52 PM
I think we Americans (though not myself) are partly to blame for the drunken tourists in Spain. Ha.


Hm. It's hard to say. Different cultures are strange, because both people must be aware of the differences in order to coexist. In some sense, I'd suggest just trying to be friendly to the tourists. They aren't TRYING to be harmful they're just ignorant. They don't know that it's rude, etc. Then again, perhaps they also don't care. They paid some money, so now they want to just feel like they own the country. That's no good, I suppose. But anyway, I don't think tourism in general is a big problem. But I guess that most tourists in my area are fairly calm. There are a few streets in San Francisco now that don't allow vans that can carry more than 8 people because of tours. That's funny. San Francisco can be a bit busy at times because of it, but I've never really had any problem with it.


Joe
Tuesday 29th of January 2008 08:16:07 PM
Originally posted by djr33Then again, perhaps they also don't care. They paid some money, so now they want to just feel like they own the country.

I think you've hit the crux of the problem right there. One thing that I've noticed when I've been places (not necessarily even out of the country, although I've noticed this trend in Mexico and Canada as well) is exactly what you've mentioned. Folks seem to think that since they've paid, it gives them carte blanche to do whatever they like. They seem to conveniently forget that most likely, everyone else has paid to be there as well. Common courtesy can (or should) go a long way. Paying for a service, etc doesn't give a person the right to be an arrogant prick about things...

I think some of the tourist industry should probably also take some of the blame for stuff like this though - as they certainly seem to cater to the folks willing do drop big cash.

Funny too - most of the places I've been that are "touristy", don't even really reflect what the place is truly like - as they are too built up and "glitzy" in order to attract tourists.

This is an interesting topic Avaldi! I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's opinions...




Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 30th of January 2008 02:52:33 AM
Originally posted by Joe

Funny too - most of the places I've been that are \"touristy\", don't even really reflect what the place is truly like - as they are too built up and \"glitzy\" in order to attract tourists.



It's true most people come to Florida and think that Disney or cruises is what real Floridian life is like. It's completely not true. To really know what a place is like you have to go to the non tourist areas. Everytime my family is on vacation I ask to go to all of these remote places and they think I'm crazy but it's worth bugging them. I find out the true place I am visiting instead of a shined up lie that everyone accepts to be true.


Danial
Wednesday 30th of January 2008 02:38:33 PM
Singapore is pretty much known as a tourist hub. A BIG attraction that is coming in a couple of years or so is our Integrated Resort (just a "nice term" our government use for CASINO, but it definitely has other amenities such as hotels, theatres, shopping centres, theme parks etc...). Our country is aiming to establish tourism as one of the major engine generating for the economy. As we do not have any other natural resources such as oil and wood. Which is why I'm studying a diploma in "Hotel & Hospitality Management" in the following three years, just for the advent of this Integrated Resort.

Not only that, but Singapore is also planning to be the host of the upcoming Grand Prix (either latest one or the next one, I don't remember(, therefore is in the process of constructing its required tracks right in the city. Since we do not much space to build tracks specially for racing. So we have to be efficient to save space. (yeah. we're a hell of a puny country)


Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 30th of January 2008 06:22:51 PM
Originally posted by Danial
(yeah. we're a hell of a puny country)

It's not the size mate it's how you use it!

Sorry I couldn't resist. :)


Avaldi
Wednesday 30th of January 2008 09:44:28 PM
P.S. I hope to visit Spain someday hopefully I won't be a terrible tourist, or drunk like the English.

Of course Kenny, everyone is welcome here! :) I know you all are intelligent, so you won't drink a lot ;)


squeak
Saturday 24th of May 2008 08:26:57 AM
hopefully I won't be a terrible tourist, or drunk like the English.
English...hurt...sad now! :( <=see ;)

I'd agree with what has already been said about the behaviour of tourists. Many seem to have the attitude of “Well, I’m on holiday, I’ll do what I want and so long as I have fun, everything’s good”. The impact of their behaviour doesn’t seem to be a concern...as though it is “below” them to notice that there could be any impact at all.

There seems to be this idea in some parts of society here that certain places are just for partying, too. Here Avaldi, unfortunately, Spain (at least, parts of it) is one of these places. So this “reputation” attracts more of the same sorts of characters with the same behaviour.

I also agree that you don’t see the real flavour of a place if you just see the parts that are for the tourists...go to the more “out of the way” places around, see the locals, see their culture, learn some of their language, see the real version of the country you are visiting.

Here, to be honest, I don't notice if we have much trouble (it's a large city and I'm not actually sure of how much tourism affects us...). If we do, it’s more than likely mostly not the tourists...

Going back to the comment on the English...it makes me sad that people of my nationality are observed as being so rude and ignorant by others, and even more so that I think this may well be deserved and quite possibly representative of the upcoming generations. This links into the way children are raised, with more and more here that even I can see being “raised” with a complete lack of respect for anything. That’s not to say that all the English deserve the image which is painted by these, there are those who are respectful and many who don’t appreciate this rude and drunken image. Unfortunately, I think in many places the more respectful tourists are by far over-shadowed by those rude ones. It can also be the old idea of the minority spoiling something for the majority...

I would hate to be considered one of the trouble-making tourists. My parents raised me to respect the culture of the place I am in and also, if I am going to be visiting somewhere where English is not the first language, learn at least some words before travelling (hello, goodbye, please, thank you, I’m sorry, etc), if not more.



Avaldi
Wednesday 18th of June 2008 03:35:08 AM
Squeak, that's cool! Not everybody is like that...

Here Avaldi, unfortunately, Spain (at least, parts of it) is one of these places.
Most of Spain is "invaded" by English tourists. I don't care if they come here and they don't speak a word of Spanish, but at least, they shouldn't insult our culture. Don't you think so? :)

I would hate to be considered one of the trouble-making tourists. My parents raised me to respect the culture of the place I am in and also, if I am going to be visiting somewhere where English is not the first language, learn at least some words before travelling (hello, goodbye, please, thank you, I’m sorry, etc), if not more.
You're more than welcomed here then! :)
Never change ;)


squeak
Wednesday 18th of June 2008 05:49:41 PM
Here Avaldi, unfortunately, Spain (at least, parts of it) is one of these places.
Most of Spain is "invaded" by English tourists. I don't care if they come here and they don't speak a word of Spanish, but at least, they shouldn't insult our culture. Don't you think so? :)

I agree with that...generally speaking, we're not the most polite of nationalities when it comes to other cultures, unfortunately. I can't understand why!:( I wish it were different.

I would hate to be considered one of the trouble-making tourists. My parents raised me to respect the culture of the place I am in and also, if I am going to be visiting somewhere where English is not the first language, learn at least some words before travelling (hello, goodbye, please, thank you, I’m sorry, etc), if not more.
You're more than welcomed here then! :)
Never change ;)

:) Thank you! I don't intend to ;)


Dominick_Korshanyenko
Monday 23rd of June 2008 10:16:42 AM
Originally posted by squeakhopefully I won't be a terrible tourist, or drunk like the English.
English...hurt...sad now! :( <=see ;)

I'd agree with what has already been said about the behaviour of tourists. Many seem to have the attitude of “Well, I’m on holiday, I’ll do what I want and so long as I have fun, everything’s good”. The impact of their behaviour doesn’t seem to be a concern...as though it is “below” them to notice that there could be any impact at all.

There seems to be this idea in some parts of society here that certain places are just for partying, too. Here Avaldi, unfortunately, Spain (at least, parts of it) is one of these places. So this “reputation” attracts more of the same sorts of characters with the same behaviour.

I also agree that you don’t see the real flavour of a place if you just see the parts that are for the tourists...go to the more “out of the way” places around, see the locals, see their culture, learn some of their language, see the real version of the country you are visiting.

Here, to be honest, I don't notice if we have much trouble (it's a large city and I'm not actually sure of how much tourism affects us...). If we do, it’s more than likely mostly not the tourists...

Going back to the comment on the English...it makes me sad that people of my nationality are observed as being so rude and ignorant by others, and even more so that I think this may well be deserved and quite possibly representative of the upcoming generations. This links into the way children are raised, with more and more here that even I can see being “raised” with a complete lack of respect for anything. That’s not to say that all the English deserve the image which is painted by these, there are those who are respectful and many who don’t appreciate this rude and drunken image. Unfortunately, I think in many places the more respectful tourists are by far over-shadowed by those rude ones. It can also be the old idea of the minority spoiling something for the majority...

I would hate to be considered one of the trouble-making tourists. My parents raised me to respect the culture of the place I am in and also, if I am going to be visiting somewhere where English is not the first language, learn at least some words before travelling (hello, goodbye, please, thank you, I’m sorry, etc), if not more.


I meant those specific English tourists. I know that not all of England is rude. In fact American tourist are probably even ruder. ;) Just so you know even when Americans hear about things like this they still see the English as smarter more civilized people. I need to post some youtube videos that show this cause its really funny. :)

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