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Marta
Friday 01st of July 2005 07:25:15 PM
VERB in Polish: Polish is not a very regular language. Nevertherless, there are some rules:D Have a look at conjugation in present tense:)

Ist group: -ę, -esz

pisać - to write
ja piszę
ty piszesz
on/ona/ono pisze
my piszemy
wy piszecie
oni/one piszą

wskazywać - to point
ja wskazuję
ty wskazujesz
on/ona/ono wskazuje
my wskazujemy
wy wskazujecie
oni/one wskazują



IInd group: -ę, -isz (-ysz)

myśleć - to think
ja myślę
ty myślisz
on/ona/ono myśli
my myślimy
wy myslicie
oni/one myślą

wierzyć - to believe
ja wierzę
ty wierzysz
on/ona/ono wierzy
my wierzymy
wy wierzycie
oni/one wierzą



IIIrd group: -am, -asz

czytać - to read
ja czytam
ty czytasz
on/ona/ono czyta
my czytamy
wy czytacie
oni/one czytają

kochać - to love
ja kocham
ty kochasz
on/ona/ono kocha
my kochamy
wy kochacie
oni/one kochają



IVth group: -em, -esz

rozumieć - to understand
ja rozumiem
ty rozumiesz
on/ona/ono rozumie
my rozumiemy
wy rozumiecie
oni/one rozumieją

umieć - can
ja umiem
ty umiesz
on/ona/ono umie
my umiemy
wy umiecie
oni/one umieją

note: in sentences normally we omit the pronouns e.g. Czytam teraz bardzo interesującą książkę (I'm reading a very interesting book now), not: Ja czytam.... We use the pronouns only to emphasise. e.g. Kto czyta gazety? (Who reads newspapers?) -Ja czytam. (I read)

I'll try to write some exercises with conjugation, if you're interested:)


Marta
Friday 01st of July 2005 11:09:09 PM
Exercises: Anyone wants to conjugate some verbs:D?

grać - to play (IIIrd group)
tańczyć - to dance (IInd group, -ysz)
mówić - to speak (IInd group, -isz)
jeść - to eat (IVth group)
pić - to drink (Ist group)



locksta
Friday 01st of July 2005 11:28:45 PM
would love to.... but it seems you've just made the language seem more confusing than it was to me allready so i think ill just observe this time. im not up to this level with my polski. ;-)


Marta
Friday 01st of July 2005 11:31:33 PM
Oh, come on, Locksta! Just follow the examples:) Those verbs are regular, and I'll correct you if necessary!


stjerne
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 12:17:53 AM
próbuję.. :D

Grać:

Ja gram
Ty grasz
On/Ona/Ono gra
My gramy
Wy gracie
Oni/One grają

Tańczyć:

Ja tańczę
Ty tańczysz
On/Ona/Ono tańczy
My tańczymy
Wy tańczycie
Oni/One tańczą

Mówić:

Ja mówię
Ty mówisz
On/Ona/Ono mówi
My mówimy
Wy mówicie
Oni/One mówią

Jeść:

Ja jem
Ty jesz
On/Ona/Ono je
My Jemy
Wy Jecie
Oni/One jedzą

Pic:

Ja piję
Ty pijesz
On/Ona/Ono pije
My pijemy
Wy pijecie
Oni/One piją



Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 12:34:32 AM
Exercise II: Idealnie, Marianne:) Żadnych błędów!
Perfect, Marianne:) No mistakes!

Next exercise:
Pu the verbs in brackets in the right form. Sometimes there's a clue in italics saying about the right person.

1. Maciek dzisiaj cały dzień (grać ) .....na skrzypcach.
2. Moi rodzice (czytać ) ...... bardzo mało książek o podróżach.
3. Czy ona(mówić ) ...... po polsku?
4. (Ja)dosyć często (tańczyć )...... przy spokojnej muzyce.
5. Oni teraz (jeść )..... dużo owoców.
6. Czy (ty)(pić ).......alkohol?
7. (Ja)Nigdy nie (pisać )..... listów ręcznie.
8. Co (ty)(myśleć )......o moim pomyśle?
9. My zawsze (wierzyć )...... twoim słowom.
10. Czy (wy)(umieć )....... grać w szachy?






tony123456
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 01:09:52 AM
Marta,how do you know when to use the right form ina sentence? like above in the first exersizes with you or he she it or they. how do you know? for ex. ja pisze,how do you know when to use pisze and not pisac,this always has gotten me thrown off in polish! p.s how do i use the accents on the computer is ther a code or ceartain numbers adn things i press on the keyboard?


Anonymous
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 01:41:29 AM
I keep one's fingers crossed for you, polish is very hard but you notwithstanding try to learn !




stjerne
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 01:48:24 AM
1. Maciek dzisiaj cały dzień gra na skrzypcach.

2. Moi rodzice czytają bardzo mało książek o podróżach.

3. Czy ona mówi po polsku?

4. (Ja)dosyć często tańczę przy spokojnej muzyce.

5. Oni teraz jedzą dużo owoców.

6. Czy (ty) pijesz alkohol?

7. (Ja)Nigdy nie piszę listów ręcznie.

8. Co (ty) myślisz o moim pomyśle?

9. My zawsze wierzymy twoim słowom.

10. Czy (wy) umiecie grać w szachy?



Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 05:47:23 AM
Originally posted by tony123456


Marta,how do you know when to use the right form ina sentence? like above in the first exersizes with you or he she it or they. how do you know? for ex. ja pisze,how do you know when to use pisze and not pisac,this always has gotten me thrown off in polish! p.s how do i use the accents on the computer is ther a code or ceartain numbers adn things i press on the keyboard?

Pisać is an infinitive, in a sentence you should use one of the conjugated forms. In the 1st sentence in the exercise the name Maciek is implied, that's a masculine name. Therefore, Maciek is a 'he' = 'on', so you're looking at 'grać' in 3rd person, singular, and you know it's 'gra'. 2nd sentence: moi rodzice = my parents ->you're looking at 3rd person plural. 3rd sentence: ona = she -> 3rd person singular. Is it more clear now? Any further questions? I'm just waiting for them:D

Marianne
Ćwiczenie było zrobione idealnie - znowu! Dziękuję za nagrodę, to bardzo miłe z Twojej strony:)Wkrótce postaram się zamieścić kilka innych ćwiczeń.
The exercise was done perfectly - again! Thank you for an award, that was very nice of you:) I'll try to post some other exercises soon.


tony123456
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 06:33:17 AM
it is still a little unclear.since i am not very advanced in my english class can you tell me a finer definition of (infinative)+conjugated! thanks a lot im realy trying to get this down! dziekuje bardzo!


stjerne
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 06:59:36 AM
nie ma za co!! :D dziękuję za nagrodę


Edit: fixed the typo!


tony123456
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 09:52:02 AM
stjerne,its not nie ma ca zo its actually nie ma za co.Ithought id say and anyways i finnaly rememberd that it was something else.


tony123456
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 10:18:47 AM
marta,do all polish verbs end with the cz sound ,and to conjugate correctly you have to memorize all the above info it cant be found out?


Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 05:27:47 PM
Originally posted by tony123456


it is still a little unclear.since i am not very advanced in my english class can you tell me a finer definition of (infinative)+conjugated! thanks a lot im realy trying to get this down! dziekuje bardzo!

Infinitive is, for example, 'to be'. You can't say: I to be a doctor. Similarly in Polish, you can't say: Ja czytać książkę (I to read a book). People will understand you but the sentence is not correct. You should check what's the right form for the first person singular -> ja (I), which is implied at the beginning of the sentence.
Here's the translated list of pronouns:
ja - I
ty - you
on - he
ona - she
ono - it (we almost don't use this form!)
my - we
wy - you
oni - they (masculine)
one - they (feminine)

To answer your next question, I think all the verbs in Polish end with ć. Probably you have to memorise all the conjugation forms to be able to speak Polish. You know, it's different case with me, I never learnt those rules since it's my native language. But when it comes to second language learning you should grab some knowledge in terms of grammar rules etc. right:D?


Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 06:17:07 PM
Some other verbs: I know I should have started with those... But better later than never;)

być - to be
ja jestem
ty jesteś
on/ona/ono jest
my jesteśmy
wy jesteście
oni/one są

mieć - to have
ja mam
ty masz
on/ona/ono ma
my mamy
wy macie
oni/one mają

useful expressions with 'mieć':

mieć rację - to be right
e.g. Masz rację - you're right

mieć nadzieję - to hope
e.g. Mam nadzieję, że ... - I hope that...

mieć prawo - to have a right
e.g. Ona ma prawo słuchać głośno muzyki - She has a right to listen to the loud music.



Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 06:32:50 PM
Exercise III: Translate the form from the brackets:

1. (I'm)......bardzo szczęśliwa, że Ciebie poznałam.
2. (She hopes).......że znajdzie pracę.
3. (We are)........... dzisiaj w domu.
4. (He has a right)........ polecieć do Egiptu, nie możecie mu tego zabronić.
5. (You're right)...... nigdy nie będzie nas stac na ten dom.
6. (They are)...... zadowoleni ze swoich dzieci.
7. (You're)........ bardzo w niej zakochany, prawda?
8. (She's right).......... ten pomysł jest naprawdę głupi/
9. (I hope)......... że mój dziadek szybko wyzdrowieje.
10. (He is)...........lekarzem i spędza dużo czasu w szpitalu.


Marta
Saturday 02nd of July 2005 08:34:58 PM
Another importan verb that I forgot of...: ....but Footy Fanatic reminded me:)

robić - to do
ja robię
ty robisz
on/ona/ono robi
my robimy
wy robicie
oni/one robią


tony123456
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 01:14:35 AM
dziekuje Marta, teraz rozumiem! Iam going to try and see if this is right!


1. ja (JESTEM) 5.ty(masz prawo)9mam nadzieje
2.MA NADZIEJE 6. ONI/ONE SA 10. on jest
3.WY JESTESCIE 7.JESTES
4.ON (MA PRAWO) 8.ONA MA PRAWO


tony123456
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 01:19:22 AM
oh , by the way marta or stjerne where can i go to get listings of verbs and what they conjugate too???


stjerne
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 02:43:49 AM
Originally posted by tony123456
stjerne,its not nie ma ca zo its actually nie ma za co.Ithought id say and anyways i finnaly rememberd that it was something else.

przepraszam... it was a typo :)

oh , by the way marta or stjerne where can i go to get listings of verbs and what they conjugate too???

I haven't found a list for conjugating the verbs... I learned these as a child :) Dictionaries have some verbs etc at the back, but your best bet would be to get a Polish grammar book.

how do i use the accents on the computer is ther a code or ceartain numbers adn things i press on the keyboard?

You need to have the polish keyboard fonts installed on your computer in order for you to be able to use them. You can find them on your windows disk or going in to the control panel. (Most fonts are pre-installed on newer machines, you need to enable them through the control panel.)



tony123456
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 03:56:29 AM
dziekuje stjerne!


stjerne
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 04:03:51 AM
1. ja jestem bardzo szczęśliwa, że Ciebie poznałam.

2. ona nadzieję że znajdzie pracę.

3. my jesteśmy dzisiaj w domu.

4. on ma rację polecieć do Egiptu, nie możecie mu tego zabronić.

5. masz rację nigdy nie będzie nas stac na ten dom.

6. oni są zadowoleni ze swoich dzieci.

7. ty jesteś bardzo w niej zakochany, prawda?

8. ma rację ten pomysł jest naprawdę głupi/

9. mam nadzieje że mój dziadek szybko wyzdrowieje.

10. On jest lekarzem i spędza dużo czasu w szpitalu.


stjerne
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 04:05:30 AM
nie ma za co :)


tony123456
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 04:42:57 AM
stjerne what was incorrect in mine?


Marta
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 04:58:49 AM
cześć,

both of you got some sentences right and some wrong:) Generally, the problem was with 'to have a right' and 'to be right'.

tony123456
1-ok
2-ona ma nadzieję*
3-my jesteśmy
4-ok
5-masz rację
6-ok
7-ok
8-ona ma rację
9-ok
10-ok

*Maybe it's my fault. At first I told you to omit the pronouns but you CAN'T omit them in 3rd person singular and 3rd person plural. If you omit them, there will be no information about if it's 'she' or 'he'

Stjerne
1-ok
2-ona ma nadzieję
3-ok
4-on ma prawo
5-ok
6-ok
7-ok
8-ona ma rację*
9-ok
10-ok

*Maybe it's my fault. At first I told you to omit the pronouns but you CAN'T omit them in 3rd person singular and 3rd person plural. If you omit them, there will be no information about if it's 'she' or 'he'


Marta
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 05:42:28 AM
Negation: Neagation is one of the easiest things in Polish:) All you have to do is to put 'nie' in front of the verb!
e.g.
nie robię - I don't do (or: I'm not doing*)
nie czytam - I don't read
nie tańczę - I don't dance
nie umiem - I can't

*We have only one present tense in Polish. Therefore, present simple and present continuous are both tranlated in the same way.




Marta
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 06:42:56 AM
Question: Question is another simple thing in Polish;) The questions that you start with e.g. 'do you...' all start with 'czy in Polish.

czy jesz mięso? - do you eat meat?
czy umiesz grać na pianinie? - can you play the piano?
czy czytasz gazety? - do you read newspapers?
czy mówisz po angielsku? - do you speak English?

The good information for you: in all the cases you can omit 'czy'. Only your intonation will tell that what you're saying is actually a question.

grasz na skrzypcach? - do you play the violin?
kochasz mnie? - do you love me?
jesteś szczęśliwy? - are you happy?

Those sound more natural.



tony123456
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 09:14:52 AM
OK, MARTA THANKYOU!Umm,i see for things that are addrese to Ja dont use it and things that people have no clue who the heckyour talking about use on,or ona or ono. secondly i thought that ma, or masz,or mam tell if it is-it or she or he??negation looks easy i got that down lolz!for questions its pretty much you can use czy or you dont have to and only use it for to do questions?czy makes it easier to know that its a question yes marta??


Marta
Sunday 03rd of July 2005 08:03:34 PM
Tony,

Yes, you're right we don't use 'ja' most of the time. Only when emphasising.
Mam, masz and ma don't tell if it's he or she.
Yeah, negatiions are easy - told you:)
I guess 'czy' is more formal, and again you're right it makes it easier to tell if it's a normal sentence or a question. But normally it's not used very often beacuse it doesn't sound very natural.


stjerne
Monday 04th of July 2005 01:47:12 AM
Stjerne
1-ok
2-ona ma nadzieję
3-ok
4-on ma prawo
5-ok
6-ok
7-ok
8-ona ma rację*
9-ok
10-ok

*Maybe it's my fault. At first I told you to omit the pronouns but you CAN'T omit them in 3rd person singular and 3rd person plural. If you omit them, there will be no information about if it's 'she' or 'he'

ugh! I thought I put those in there... I had it written that way in my notebook before posting it.

but I did remember about not omiting 3rd person singular/plural pronouns. :)



Marta
Monday 04th of July 2005 02:11:52 AM
But still it was a really well done task! I have to think of more before I leave:( You know, in some contexts it's not necessary to omit the pronouns, in some it IS. It all depends on the context.


Marta
Monday 04th of July 2005 09:09:42 PM
Exercise IV: Please, conjugate those verbs:

lubić - to like (IInd group - isz)
znać - to know (IIIrd group)
*dawać - to give (Ist group)
patrzeć - to look at (IInd group - ysz)
**kupować - to buy (Ist group)
oglądać - to watch (IIIrd group)


*The root is changing!
start with:
ja daję

** start with:
ja kupuję


tony123456
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 02:17:24 AM
ok let me see if i have them! Moze, mam racje slowi! ja lubie ,ty lubisz,on/ona libie,my lubimy,oni/one lubia

JA ZNAM, ty znasz, on/ona zna, my znamy ,wy znacie ,oni/one znaja
ja daje, ty dajesz , on/ona daje, my dajemy ,wy dajecie , oni/one daja
ja patrze, ty patrzysz ,ona/on payrzy, my patrzymy ,wy patrzycie ,oni/one patrza
ja kupuje ,ty kupujesz ,on/ona kupuje ,my kupujemy , wy kupujecie , oni/one kupuja
ja oglamdam , ty oglamdasz , on/ona oglamda , my oglamdamy , wy oglamdacie , oni/one oglamda
I hope this is right!
Mam nadzieje jestem racje!





stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 03:14:53 AM
próbuję... :D

1. Lubić:

Ja lubię
ty lubisz
On/ona/ono lubi
my lubimy
wy lubicie
oni/one lubią

2. Znać:

ja znam
ty znasz
on/ona/oni zna
my znamy
wy znacie
oni/one znają

3. Dawać:

ja daję
ty dajesz
on/ona/ono daje
my dajemy
wy dajecie
oni/one dają

4. Patrzeć:

ja patrzę
ty patrzysz
on/ona/ono patrzy
my patrzymy
wy patrzycie
oni/one patrzą

5. Kupować:

ja kupuję
ty kupujesz
on/ona/ono kupuje
my kupujemy
wy kupujecie
oni/one kupują

6. Oglądać:

ja oglądam
ty oglądasz
on/ona/ono ogląda
my oglądamy
wy oglądacie
oni/one oglądą


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 03:21:43 AM
Originally posted by: tony123456

ok let me see if i have them! Moze, mam racje slowi! ja lubie ,ty lubisz,on/ona libie,my lubimy,oni/one lubia

JA ZNAM, ty znasz, on/ona zna, my znamy ,wy znacie ,oni/one znaja
ja daje, ty dajesz , on/ona daje, my dajemy ,wy dajecie , oni/one daja
ja patrze, ty patrzysz ,ona/on payrzy, my patrzymy ,wy patrzycie ,oni/one patrza
ja kupuje ,ty kupujesz ,on/ona kupuje ,my kupujemy , wy kupujecie , oni/one kupuja
ja oglamdam , ty oglamdasz , on/ona oglamda , my oglamdamy , wy oglamdacie , oni/one oglamda
I hope this is right!
Mam nadzieje jestem racje!


Only thing I see wrong with the exercise is a couple of typo's :D

on/ona libie = on/ona lubi

the verb oglądać in conjugated form has no M except in ja oglądam








tony123456
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 03:32:25 AM
o no when i was copying it down to type i put an m in the word and used the m the whole time!! im so retarded sometimes!,lolz thanks so much!Ihate theses typos,lol dziekuje bardzo!!


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 03:45:24 AM
nie ma za co :) don't worry about it.. I make 'em all the time lol apart from that it was very well done!!

fantastyczny :D


I also found a book that should help you, it lists verbs and their conjugations, 1 verb per page.

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Marta
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 05:43:46 AM
Super! Nawet mnie nie potrzebujecie:D Bardzo dobrze zrobione ćwiczenie! I dobrze poprawione!

Great! You don't even need me:D Very well done exercise! And well corrected!


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 05:58:09 AM
doskonale! I remembered these verbs from before :)

what verb group is wziąć?

of course we still need you!! śsg


tony123456
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 06:02:04 AM
I agree we do still need you your the best polish teacher ever!!Marta or sterjne why is it in group 2 lubic for ona.on it is lubi and not lubie??


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 06:12:14 AM
I'm not 100% sure but I think it is because the endings for group 2 verbs are -ę and -isz. you drop the sz for on/ona...etc and add their respective endings.


Marta
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 05:51:33 PM
Probably Stjerne is right! She's better at rules than me:D

Wziąć is irregular

wziąć - to take
ja biorę
ty bierzesz
on/ona/ono bierze
my bierzemy
wy bierzecie
oni/one biorą


Anonymous
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 10:59:07 PM
Why do none of those verbs look remotely like the starting one?


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 11:14:53 PM
śsg dzięki... I still need lots of help with the rules :D

I think whoever invented our language made those irregular verbs to confuse people (especially me!, I'd forgotten this one) śsg


Marta
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 11:21:10 PM
śsg, czasowniki nieregularne są 'cudowne' w każdym języku:D W ogóle gramatyka - piękna rzecz! Niestety jutro wyjeżdżam i nie będę Wam mogła więcej pomagać:( Ale tutaj jest tyle Polaków, że na pewno znajdzie się ktoś chętny - mam nadzieję:)
~~~ *** ~~~
lol, irregular verbs are 'wonderful' in every language:D Grammar, in general - beautiful thing! Unfortunately I'm leaving tomorrow and I won't be able to help you anymore:( But there are so many Polish people here that you'll find somebody willing to do that for sure - I hope so:)


stjerne
Tuesday 05th of July 2005 11:32:40 PM
for sure :)

I found a book that contains 301 verbs and lists their conjugations and I'm sure Kamil will help me when I need it :)

Have a safe and wonderful trip and we'll see you when you get back!!





tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 02:48:36 AM
what does this mean-(ssg)


tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 02:50:17 AM
Marta where are you going ?please return when you get back!lols!


Marta
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 03:03:05 AM
Jadę do Anglii. Oczywiście, że tu wrócę! Będę za Wami tęsknic:)

I'm going to England. Of course I'll come back here! I will miss you:)


tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 03:09:41 AM
Wow, have fun in England! We will miss you alot too!


cheerio!!



tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 05:14:15 AM
What do you think is a good way to memorize the verbs and there conjugations??



Marta
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 05:18:09 AM
I think just using them is the best idea:D If I don't write enough in French I quickly forget the conjugation. If you keep repeating the vercs, they should become more natural to use and much easier. You'll find some analogies that will help you to guess the form even if you're not sure. So my advice is to build sentences:) good luck!!
And thanks, I hope I'll have fun:D


tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 05:28:56 AM
dzieki! ja wola!


Marta
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 05:31:12 AM
ja wola? I didn't get it:(


tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 06:39:45 AM
well Ilooked up the word for (will) and it came up (wola) so Iwrote ja wola- (i will)i new it was probably wrong!sorru what woyuld be correct??


tony123456
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 06:45:24 AM
moze ,chciec albo checiec.


stjerne
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 02:55:11 PM
Originally posted by tony123456
what does this mean-(ssg)

it means lol po polsku :D (śmiać się głośno)


Footy_Fanatic
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 11:03:45 PM
Marta, If you are still there whereabouts are you going in England?
I live in England!


wasil
Wednesday 06th of July 2005 11:46:04 PM
"I will" to nie "ja wola"

to bnrzmi jakby ktoś się śląską gwarą posługiwał i mówił coś w stylu

"ja wola ziemniaki"

"I will" to po prostu "będę"

"I will" is not "ja wola"

it sound like somebody using silesian dialect and say something like that:

"ja wola ziemniaki" (i prefer potatoes) :D (don't use this sentence in your learning polish! :))

"I will" is simply "będę"



"will" without anything is "wola"


tony123456
Thursday 07th of July 2005 01:09:06 AM
ok ,ssg! so it is just (bede!) not wola?


tony123456
Thursday 07th of July 2005 01:17:23 AM
what is bede litarally translated too??


stjerne
Thursday 07th of July 2005 02:22:30 AM
Originally posted by Footy Fanatic
Marta, If you are still there whereabouts are you going in England? I live in England!

She is in Manchester :) she left on the 5th.


Stjerne
Wednesday 31st of August 2005 01:12:59 PM
Originally posted by tony123456 what is bede litarally translated to?

będę literally means I will


Marta
Saturday 17th of September 2005 02:45:27 AM
I think we can come back to our 'verb discussions'. I have plenty of time, again.

Anybody willing to conjugate those verbs?
This time I'm not telling which group they belong to, try to find it out on your own. Or just do as you think it should be done:) Good luck!

przeglądać - to browse
odpowiadać - to answer
pytać - to ask
nosić - to carry


stjerne
Sunday 18th of September 2005 01:47:43 PM
oki :D

pytać:

ja pytam
ty pytasz
on/ona/ono pyta
my pytamy
wy pytacie
oni/one pytają

nosić:

ja noszę
ty nosisz
on/ona/ono nosi
my nosimy
wy nosicie
oni/one noszą

odpowiadać:

ja odpowiadam
ty odpowiadasz
on/ona/ono odpowiada
my odpowiadamy
wy odpowiadacie
oni/one odpowiadają

przeoglądać:

ja przeglądam
ty przeglądasz
on/ona/ono przegląda
my przeglądamy
wy przeglądacie
oni/one przeglądają


Marta
Sunday 18th of September 2005 04:52:05 PM
Oczywiście wszystko bardzo dobrze:) Jedynie to 'o' w przeglądać trzeba wyrzucić:) Ma być - 'przeglądać' a nie 'przeoglądać' - reszta OK!


stjerne
Tuesday 20th of September 2005 06:21:51 AM
Perhaps someone wants to try conjugate these verbs:

budzić (to wake)
łamać (to break)
rozmawiać (to converse with)
ubierać (to dress)


tony123456
Tuesday 20th of September 2005 09:52:36 AM
Dobrzy,

BUDZIC.
- budzim
-budzisz
-budzi
-budzimy
-budzicie
- budzisicie

LAMAC.
-LAMAM
-LAMASZ
-LAMA
-LAMACIE
-LAMASIEMY
-LAMASICIE

ROZMOWIAC.

-ROZMOWIAM
- ROZMOWIASZ
- ROZMOWIA
- ROZMOWIAMY
- ROZMOWIACIE
-ROZMOWIASICIE


UBIERAC.

-UBIERAM
-UBIERASZ
-UBIERA
-UBIERAMY
-UBIERACIE
-UBIERASICIE



I hope it was close.


stjerne
Tuesday 20th of September 2005 10:19:37 AM
Cześć Tony... Just a few errors, mostly in the Oni/One form :) the rest is ok!

budzić:

ja budz[color=red]ę[/color]
Oni/One budz[color=red]ą[/color]

Rozmawiać:

Oni/one rozmawiaj[color=red]ą[/color]

Ubierać:

Oni/One ubieraj[color=red]ą[/color]

Łamiać:

ja łam[color=red]ię[/color]
ty łam[color=red]ie[/color]sz
On/Ona/Ono łam[color=red]ie[/color]
my łam[color=red]ie[/color]my
wy łam[color=red]ie[/color]cie
Oni/One łam[color=red]ią[/color]





Marta
Wednesday 21st of September 2005 04:59:27 PM
Ćwiczenie / Exercise: Teraz kilka zdań do przetłumaczenia z nowymi czasownikami:
~~~***~~~
Now a few sentences with new verbs to translate:

1. They're talking about weather.
2. She's just waking up.
3. My dad is putting on his coat. (use the verb: ubierać )
4. You're breaking the rules!
5. They're asking for help.
6. Why are you carrying this bag?
7. We're answering your question.
8. I'm browsing PB's forum:)

Jeśli macie jakieś problemy z koniugacją lub deklinacją - wyślijcie mi PM, albo zapytajce na forum:D
~~~***~~~
If you have any problems with coniugation or declination - PM me or ask in the forum:D


tony123456
Saturday 24th of September 2005 10:53:02 AM
dzieki! stjerne!


tony123456
Saturday 24th of September 2005 10:57:46 AM
8. przegladam


Marta
Saturday 24th of September 2005 09:41:12 PM
Haha, Tony:D That was a good start;)

The whole sentence was not really dificult:
8. Przeglądam forum PB.

That's it! Simple, isn't it?


I've just started another thread with grammar lesson - noun this time. When it's completed it should be easier for you to translate the sentences from this exercise - I hope! So good luck in further learning!


demidron
Sunday 25th of September 2005 07:00:32 PM
Verb Conjugations: Hey everyone!

Mam na imię Ben. Jestem Australijczykiem. Chcę mówić dobrze po polsku.

I just found out a cool way to remember the verb forms. Effectively all you need to know are the 1st and 3rd person singular forms (the "ja" form and the "on/ona/ono" form).

If you take the 3rd person singular form, you can form the others most of the others by adding these endings.

(ty) -sz
(my) -my
(wy) -cie

You form the "oni/one" form by taking the "ja" form. If it ends in -ę you simply change it to -ą. If it ends in an -m, then you take off the -m and add -ją. This holds true for nearly all polish verbs. It doesn't for "być" (to be) or "wiedzieć" (to know)... but those are the only ones I can think of right now.

jestem
jesteś
jest
jesteśmy
jesteście


wiem
wiesz
wie
wiemy
wiecie
wiedzą

Czy mam racje?? Czy tak jest poprawnie?

I have a cool dictionary that provides the "ja" and "ty" forms of verbs, as well as the perfective and imperfective forms within the same entry - it's downloadable from http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/ (just be careful, and don't do what I did - don't download the reference grammar and READ it, it's just for reference, and it's probably not to be looked at by beginners... I'm good with grammar, but it really scared me).

Can any native polish speakers tell me what the difference between the future perfective and future imperfective is... so like "będę jeść twojego psa" and "zjem twojego psa". Hehe, sorry for the strange example. Is one of them more like "I will eat your dog" and the other one like "I will be eating your dog". How do you say "I will have eaten your dog"... just for the record: nie jem psów.

Dziękuję bardzo!
Ben



Marta
Sunday 25th of September 2005 07:42:16 PM
Cześć Ben,

Moim zdaniem Twój sposób na odmianę czasowników jest dobry, sprawdziłam na kilku przykładach i wszystko się zgadzało:) Jeśli też odkryję czasowniki, które nie odmieniają się według tego schematu, to dam znać.

********

In my opinion your way of conjugation is good, I checked it with a few examples and everything was all right:)
If I find any verbs that don't conjugate according to this scheme, I'll let you know.


Czas przyszły

Pozwól, że zmienię przykład z psem.

Masz rację:

'będę jeść obiad' znaczy 'I'll be eating dinner'

a

'zjem obiad' to 'I'll eat dinner'

Przy czym zdanie 'I'll have eaten dinner' też przetłumaczymy na 'zjem obiad'. Język polski jest bardzo prosty (:P) i ma tylko 3 czasy: przeszły, teraźniejszy i przyszły. Kiedyś był jeszcze czas zaprzeszły, ale już się go nie używa. Dlatego często różne zdania w angielskim mają to samo tłumaczenie w polskim.

Future tense

Please, let me change the example with dog:P

You're right:

'będę jeść obiad' znaczy 'I'll be eating dinner'

and

'zjem obiad' means 'I'll eat dinner'.

And the sentence 'I'll have eaten dinner' will be also translated into 'zjem obiad'. Polish is really simple (:P) and there are only 3 tenses: past, present and future. There used to be past perfect but we don't use it anymore. That's why different sentences in English may have the same translation in Polish.




Mam nadzieję, że to Ci wystarczy! A jak nie, to zawsze możesz pytać dalej.

I hope it's enough for you! If not, you can still ask.


tony123456
Monday 26th of September 2005 07:51:15 AM
Originally posted by demidron


Hey everyone!

Mam na imię Ben. Jestem Australijczykiem. Chcę mówić dobrze po polsku.

I just found out a cool way to remember the verb forms. Effectively all you need to know are the 1st and 3rd person singular forms (the "ja" form and the "on/ona/ono" form).

If you take the 3rd person singular form, you can form the others most of the others by adding these endings.

(ty) -sz
(my) -my
(wy) -cie

You form the "oni/one" form by taking the "ja" form. If it ends in -ę you simply change it to -ą. If it ends in an -m, then you take off the -m and add -ją. This holds true for nearly all polish verbs. It doesn't for "być" (to be) or "wiedzieć" (to know)... but those are the only ones I can think of right now.

jestem
jesteś
jest
jesteśmy
jesteście


wiem
wiesz
wie
wiemy
wiecie
wiedzą

Czy mam racje?? Czy tak jest poprawnie?

I have a cool dictionary that provides the "ja" and "ty" forms of verbs, as well as the perfective and imperfective forms within the same entry - it's downloadable from http://polish.slavic.pitt.edu/ (just be careful, and don't do what I did - don't download the reference grammar and READ it, it's just for reference, and it's probably not to be looked at by beginners... I'm good with grammar, but it really scared me).

Can any native polish speakers tell me what the difference between the future perfective and future imperfective is... so like "będę jeść twojego psa" and "zjem twojego psa". Hehe, sorry for the strange example. Is one of them more like "I will eat your dog" and the other one like "I will be eating your dog". How do you say "I will have eaten your dog"... just for the record: nie jem psów.

Dziękuję bardzo!
Ben
przepraszam, nie rozumiem.......


demidron
Tuesday 27th of September 2005 04:24:00 PM
Dzięki Marta!
I guess only having three tenses is at least some consolation for the fact that there are two types of verbs. English has 12 tenses (not including emphatic present and past such as "I do run" and "I did run", as well as other constructions such as "used to" and "was going to")... so English isn't exactly easy to learn either. I'm only a beginner with Polish, and sometimes its complexity of Polish me out... The whole perfective/imperfective thing is doing my head it... it'd be fine if there was a way to regularly form one from the other, but there isn't. I learn't German, and Polish really makes German look like child's play.

The reason I was asking about the future perfect tense, is that I heard that in Russian there's no way of saying something like "By this time tomorrow we will have spent five hours in an aeroplane". I guess Polish is the same, and at first I thought this was a major failing, but then I remembered you can simply say something like "I will spend five hours in an aeroplane before this time tomorrow". That would be perfective, right? Because it indicates that it was a single completed action?

Now just out of interest; how do you say "I was going to eat dinner"?? What's the past tense of "jeść"? Is it jał?

How do you say "Come here!" and "Come!" (meaning "follow me!")? The dictionary I have isn't really clear when I look up "come"... which usually means that there isn't one verb which is equivalent, what do you say in these two situations?? My dictionary doesn't have past tense forms either... I understand how to conjugate past tense, and even subjunctive, but I don't know where to find the past tense forms (do they mostly end in -ał, regardless of the last vowel in the stem?? Is the past tense stem of robić "robiał" or "robił"?) Sorry about all the questions... I'm hoping to get some conversational practice with the flatmate of a friend of mine, I'm just hoping he agrees. Lastly, Marta, I think it's great that you write everything in Polish and English! I didn't see the English at first, and I just freaked, but it's a great help!

Tony! Sorry, I'm not very good at organising what I have to say... I'll try again. To remember the present tense conjugations of most verbs, you don't need to remember every form. If you can somehow find out the infinitive (the easy bit), and the first person singular (I - ja), and the third person singular (he/she/it - on/ona/ono), then you can nearly always work out the rest from there.

Ok, so the infinitive "to go" is "iść". If you have a dictionary which also gives the "ja" and "on/ona/ono" forms, which are: "idę" and "idzie", you can work out the rest (usually, dictionaries that show these, will show any other irregularities too). Ok, I'll represent the person (first, second, or third) as 1, 2 or 3, and singular and plural with "p" or "s" respectively.

1s = 1s = idę
2s = 3s + -sz = idzie+sz = idziesz
3s = 3s = idzie
1p = 3s + -my = idzie+my = idziemy
2p = 3s + -cie = idzie+cie = idziecie
3p = 1s, replace final -ę with -ą = idę - ę + ą = idą

If the 1s form ends with -m, instead of -ę, you replace it in the 3p with -ją.

So, the present tense conjugation of iść is:
idę
idziesz
idzie
idziemy
idziecie
idą

The present tense conjugation of "mieć" is:

mam
masz
ma
mamy
macie
mają

Often it's even easier, because the 1s ("ja") is just the 3s ("on/ona/ono") form with "-m" attached (which is the case with mieć).

It would be a lot easier to explain if I could use bold and italics and different colours, ale mam nadzieje, że rozumiesz. If not, I hope Marta can explain it better... why did I represent it like maths... I don't even like maths...

Do zobaczenia!
Ben


tony123456
Wednesday 28th of September 2005 10:32:42 AM
dzieki! ben! It is now just memorising all the steps and the ist pearson and 3rd pearson!


Marta
Friday 30th of September 2005 05:02:57 AM
Cześć Ben!
Postaram się odpowiedzieć!
I'll try to answer!

Originally posted by demidron

The reason I was asking about the future perfect tense, is that I heard that in Russian there's no way of saying something like "By this time tomorrow we will have spent five hours in an aeroplane". I guess Polish is the same, and at first I thought this was a major failing, but then I remembered you can simply say something like "I will spend five hours in an aeroplane before this time tomorrow". That would be perfective, right? Because it indicates that it was a single completed action?

To dosyć trudne zdanie do przetłumaczenia... Właściwie, to pzretłumaczyłabym je inaczej niż Ty myślisz (wydaje mi się, że dosłowniej się nie da):
'Jutro do tej pory, będziemy po pięciu godzinach spędzonych w samolocie'. Dosłownie: Tomorrow by this time we will be after five hours spent in an aeroplane. To mniej więcej to samo?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's a quite hard sentence to translate... Actually I'd translateit differently from what you're thinking ( I think it can't be more literal):
'Jutro do tej pory, będziemy po pięciu godzinach spędzonych w samolocie'. Literally: Tomorrow by this time we will be after five hours spent in an aeroplane. Is it more or less the same?


Now just out of interest; how do you say "I was going to eat dinner"?? What's the past tense of "jeść"? Is it jał?

I was going to eat dinner = zamierzałem/am jeść/zjeść obiad

jeść - to eat, in PAST TENSE (m/f)

ja jadłem/jadłam
ty jadłeś/jadłaś
on jadł
ona jadła

my jedliśmy/jadłyśmy
wy jedliście/jadłyście
oni jedli
one jadły

How do you say "Come here!" and "Come!" (meaning "follow me!")? The dictionary I have isn't really clear when I look up "come"... which usually means that there isn't one verb which is equivalent, what do you say in these two situations??

come here = chodź tu
come = chodź
follow me = idź za mną or chodź za mną

My dictionary doesn't have past tense forms either... I understand how to conjugate past tense, and even subjunctive, but I don't know where to find the past tense forms (do they mostly end in -ał, regardless of the last vowel in the stem?? Is the past tense stem of robić "robiał" or "robił"?) Sorry about all the questions... I'm hoping to get some conversational practice with the flatmate of a friend of mine, I'm just hoping he agrees.

robić - to do, to make in PAST TENSE (m/f)

ja robiłem/robiłam
ty robiłeś/robiłaś
on robił
ona robiła

my robiliśmy/robiłyśmy
wy robiliście/robiłyśmy
oni robili
one robiły


Lastly, Marta, I think it's great that you write everything in Polish and English! I didn't see the English at first, and I just freaked, but it's a great help!

Dziękuję:D
~~~~~~~~~~
Thank you:D

LOL


na razie,
Marta




demidron
Friday 30th of September 2005 12:38:27 PM
Wow, thanks Marta, for all the info!

That vowel change from jadł- to jedl- is a bit scary. I guess that has something to do with the softening that turns the ł into l.

I wish I had more time to be studying Polish at the moment... I'm using it as a distraction from more important things, which need to be done now.

How do you say "must/have to"?? I think the "on/ona/ono" form is something like "mosi"... That sounds related to English... I find it amazing sometimes, I don't expect many words to be related between Polish and English, just basic ones (like "ja" is related to "I" and "ty" is related to our old word "thou", "jest" is directly related to "is"), or the latin based ones, like biologia... but then I find "apple" and "jabłko" are related (is there an older form like "jabło"?), "drzewo" is related to "tree", even "jeść" is somehow related to "eat", and you can see that in the past tense, with the "d" there. And I think Tolkien took the name of his dragon in The Hobbit, Smaug, from some slavic language... it just occured to me when I saw that the polish word is "smok". End of transmission...

Ben


stjerne
Friday 30th of September 2005 03:28:24 PM
Originally posted by: demidron
How do you say "must/have to"?? I think the "on/ona/ono" form is something like "mosi"..

Almost.. here is full conjugation :D

Musieć: - must/have to

ja muszę
ty musisz
on/ona/ono musi
my musimy
wy musicie
oni/one muszą


tony123456
Sunday 30th of October 2005 12:44:53 AM
Marta, the correct conjugaton of the verb Dac(to give) would be
Dac-to give
Daj- i give Dasz-you give
da-he she it gives
that's all i know for it being conjugated.

to proprawne?


stjerne
Tuesday 01st of November 2005 03:08:49 PM
conjugation of dać is:

ja daję
ty dajesz
on/ona/ono daje
my dajemy
wy dajecie
oni/one dają

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