Romanian Verbe The Subjunctive And The Infinitive

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Dominick_Korshanyenko
Sunday 12th of April 2009 04:20:05 AM
Verbe: The Subjunctive

The [color=red]Subjunctive Mood[/color] is used a lot more in Romanian than it is in English. The Subjunctive indicates possible or desired actions. In English it is mainly used with certain expressions. In Romanian though it has many more uses.

First let's talk about how the subjunctive is formed...

Forming the Subjunctive

- The Subjunctive Present in Romanian is the same as the indicative present tense except in the 3rd person. So that means in most instances it will stay the same when used.

Eu lucrez. I work. Eu vreau s? lucrez. I want to work.
Tu lucrezi. You work. Tu po?i s? lucrezi. You can work.
Noi lucr?m. We work. Noi nu vrem s? lucr?m. We don't want to work.
Voi lucra?i. You work. Voi trebuie s? lucra?i. You have to work.

- To form the 3rd person singular and plural all you have to do is switch the ending with its opposite. In other words. A verbs end in -e and EA, E, I verbs end in ?. Here are some examples of regular subjunctive verbs. The 3rd person plural is always the same as the 3rd person sing. in all 4 conjugations.

a cânta- to singInfinitive
Eu- cântNoi- cânt?mFirst Person
Tu- cân?iVoi- cânta?iSecond Person
El/Ea- cânt[color=green]e[/color]Ei/Ele- cânt[color=green]e[/color]Third Person


a vedea- to seeInfinitive
Eu- v?dNoi- vedemFirst Person
Tu- veziVoi- vede?iSecond Person
El/Ea- vad[color=green]?[/color]Ei/Ele- vad[color=green]?[/color]Third Person


a cere- to askInfinitive
Eu- cerNoi- ceremFirst Person
Tu- ceriVoi- cere?iSecond Person
El/Ea- cear[color=green]?[/color]Ei/Ele- cear[color=green]?[/color]Third Person


a dormi-to sleepInfinitive
Eu- dormNoi- dormimFirst Person
Tu- dormiVoi- dormi?iSecond Person
El/Ea- doarm[color=green]?[/color]Ei/Ele- doarm[color=green]?[/color]Third Person


a coborî-to descendInfinitive
Eu- coborNoi- coborâmFirst Person
Tu- coboriVoi- coborâ?iSecond Person
El/Ea- cobor[color=green]e[/color]Ei/Ele- cobor[color=green]e[/color]Third Person


- Notice that many forms are changed because of mutations like in a dormi and a cere.

- When infixes are added it becomes a little harder. They always have a mutation. Eaz? becomes eze. E?te becomes easc?. ?ste becomes ?sc?. Here are some examples of infix verbs.

a dansa- to danceInfinitive
Eu- dansezNoi- dans?mFirst Person
Tu- danseziVoi- dansa?iSecond Person
El/Ea- dans[color=green]eze[/color]Ei/Ele- dans[color=green]eze[/color]Third Person


a citi-to readInfinitive
Eu- citescNoi- citimFirst Person
Tu- cite?tiVoi- citi?iSecond Person
El/Ea- cit[color=green]easc?[/color]Ei/Ele- cit[color=green]easc?[/color]Third Person


a hot?rî-to decideInfinitive
Eu- hot?r?scNoi- hot?râmFirst Person
Tu- hot?r??tiVoi- hot?râ?iSecond Person
El/Ea- hot?r[color=green]?sc?[/color]Ei/Ele- hot?r[color=green]?sc?[/color]Third Person


Use of the Subjunctive

- In English when we have more than one verb together the second one is an infinitive. However in Romanian the subjunctive is used to indicate a possible or desired action.

El vrea s? mearg? la plaj?. He wants to go to the beach.
Ea înva?? s? vorbeasc? române?te. She learns to speak Romanian.
Noi putem s? vorbim engleza. We can speak English.

- The subjunctive is used after the verbs a ?ti- to know, a putea- to be able, a pl?cea- to like, and the adverb numai- just/only.

El ?tie s? citeasc?. He knows how to read.
Ea poate s? citeasc?. She can read.
Le place s? mearg? la plaj?. They like to go to the beach.
Numai s? ajungem mai repede. It's just that I want us to get there faster.

- When used alone the Subjunctive takes the meaning "should".

S? plec? Should I leave?
S? mai stau? Should I stay?
De ce s? plece? Why should he leave?
Ce s? fac? What should I do?

- Lastly the Subjunctive is used after certain expressions. In these cases the s? can be translated as "that". Some of these expressions are: trebuie, e necesar, e obligatoriu, e bine, e r?u, e comod, e u?or, as well as after some reflexive verbs in the 3rd person: se poate, se cuvine, se cade, se recomand?, etc.

El trebuie s? mearg?. He must go.
E necesar s? vorbim cu el. It's necessary that we speak with him.
Se poate s? vorbim române?te? Is it possible that we could speak Romanian?
Se recomand? s? nu fugi, Domnul Bond. It's recommended that you don't run Mr. Bond.

(Sorry I just saw Quantum of Solace. ;) )

[color=green]Informa?iile Importante![/color]

- So remember in the Subjunctive the 3rd person endings switch, it is ALWAYS preceded by the conjunction s?, and it is used when there is one verb after another.

The Infinitive

[color=red]I will Finish this lesson tomorrow![/color]



mike111
Sunday 12th of April 2009 04:54:22 AM
Mul?umesc pentru lec?ia Kenny! I find it very useful and I look forward to the continuation. :)




daniela
Wednesday 05th of August 2009 10:18:49 PM
Originally posted by mike111Mul?umesc pentru lec?ia Kenny! I find it very useful and I look forward to the continuation. :)



pentru lec?ie; lec?ia este substantiv articulat; lec?ia - a is the indefinite article



mike111
Tuesday 11th of August 2009 02:32:22 AM
Mul?umesc pentru ajutorul acordat Daniela.


Dominick_Korshanyenko
Thursday 13th of August 2009 07:39:38 AM
Remember Mike as a general rule after a preposition don't use the definite article unless the noun is modified by an adjective.

Cânt la saxofon.
Cânt la saxofonul meu.
Cânt la saxofonul bun.

Merg la parc.
Merg la parcul mare.
Merg la parc s? m? plimb.


mike111
Thursday 13th of August 2009 08:04:21 AM
Thanks for the tip Kenny. :)


daniela
Friday 28th of August 2009 09:51:42 PM
Bravo pentru conjugare! Mai încearc? ?i alte exemple.

Alege tu ce vrei. Ce cuvinte î?i plac din român?.


mike111
Tuesday 01st of September 2009 08:39:46 PM
Originally posted by danielaBravo pentru conjugare! Mai încearc? ?i alte exemple.

Alege tu ce vrei. Ce cuvinte î?i plac din român?.

Îmi plac idei t?i! Hai începe ni?te subjunctiv exerci?ii. :)

The next person can translate to romanian and give the next sentance.

Feel free to make suggestions. We could always improve the exercises.

Let's begin:

We have to eat...
Avem s? mânc?m...

You all want to leave...



daniela
Tuesday 01st of September 2009 11:14:45 PM
Foarte bine.

S? te ajut pu?in. 'Îmi plac ideile tale.'

'We have to eat to eat - Trebuie s? mânc?m.' Nu ?tiu dac? ai vrut s? scrii 'trebuie' sau altceva. I do not know if you wanted to write 'trebuie' or something else.




daniela
Tuesday 01st of September 2009 11:20:21 PM
You all want to leave...
Voi to?i vre?i s? pleca?i ...

They like icecream...


mike111
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 12:38:59 AM
Originally posted by danielaFoarte bine.

S? te ajut pu?in. 'Îmi plac ideile tale.'

'We have to eat to eat - Trebuie s? mânc?m.' Nu ?tiu dac? ai vrut s? scrii 'trebuie' sau altceva. I do not know if you wanted to write 'trebuie' or something else.



În?eleg Daniela. Mul?umesc pentru corectare.

"trebuie s? mânc?m"


mike111
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 12:44:16 AM
Le plac înghe?at?.

You need to find...


daniela
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 10:13:58 PM
Originally posted by mike111Le plac înghe?at?.

You need to find...

Lor le place înghe?ata.



daniela
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 10:16:29 PM


They like football. Lor le place s? joace fotbal.
They like icecream. Lor le place înghe?ata.
They have understood the lesson. Ei au în?eles lec?ia.
They think they know. Ei cred c? ?tiu.
They like Romanian. Lor le place limba român?.




daniela
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 10:18:39 PM

Trebuie s? g?se?ti...

They were told to close the door...


mike111
Wednesday 02nd of September 2009 11:16:58 PM
Mul?umesc Daniela. Îmi place lec?iile aceste.

Lor le-au vorbit s? închid la u??...

We have to learn the rules...




daniela
Saturday 05th of September 2009 03:49:22 AM
Originally posted by mike111Mul?umesc Daniela. Îmi place lec?iile aceste.

Lor le-au vorbit s? închid la u??...

We have to learn the rules...




Cu pl?cere. M? bucur foarte mult c? ?i-a pl?cut.

Uite, urmeaz? ceva.

Li s-a spus s? închid? u?a. Lor li s-a spus s? închid? u?a. dar nu este nevoie de pronumele 'lor' pentru c? este subîn?eles. It is an understatement.

Passive voice in English - reflexive in Romanian.

They will be told to come back on time.
Li se va spune s? se întoarc? la timp.

Speak unless you are spoken to.
Vorbe?ti doar dac? ?i se vorbe?te.

Passive in English - passive in Romanian.
They were called by their mother.
Au fost chema?i(striga?i) de mama lor.
sau
I-a strigat mama lor.




daniela
Saturday 05th of September 2009 03:51:13 AM
Originally posted by daniela
Trebuie s? g?se?ti...

They were told to close the door...

Nu ?tiam de unde apare 'trebuie s? g?se?ti'. Am g?sit!!! propozi?ia. E în urm?. :) :) :)



daniela
Saturday 05th of September 2009 03:53:43 AM


Trebuie s? înv???m regulile...

They have been studying Romanian for half an hour.


mike111
Monday 14th of September 2009 04:23:47 AM
Studiau limba român? pentru o jum?tate de or? (??)

She will have to redo her homework.

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