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Sunday 13th of July 2008 01:44:59 AMEste corect?:
Hello! I'm trying to take my Romanian more slowly so that I can get better at it. Right now I'm working on mastering the Present Tense and Personal Pronouns (including the ones in the acc./dat.) So here are some of my practice sentences. Este corect?
1. C├ónt c├óntecul. ├Äl c├ónt.
2. O ascult pe Lina. O ascult.
3. C├ón┼úi c├óntecele. Le c├ón┼úi.
4. Ascul┼úi anun┼úurile. Le ascul┼úi.
5. C├ónt─â c├óntecul. ├Äl c├ónt─â.
6. O ascult─â pe Lina. O ascult─â.
7. C├ónt─âm c├óntecele. Le c├ónt─âm.
8. Ascult─âm anun┼úurile. Le ascult─âm.
9. C├ónta┼úi c├óntecul. ├Äl c├ónta┼úi.
10. O asculta┼úi pe Lina. O asculta┼úi.
11. C├ónt─â c├óntecele. Le c├ónt─â.
12. Ascult─â anun┼úurile. Le ascult─â.
And also for future reference are these correct?
1. Am c├óntat c├óntecul. L-am c├óntat.
2. Ai ascultat-o pe Lina. I-ai ascultat.
Thanks in advance!anda
Sunday 13th of July 2008 03:05:57 AM
You got most of them right, Kenny.
Numbers 2,6 and 10 don't make much sense. Could you translate them into English, please? So I can see what you meant in order for me to correct them.
3. C├ón┼úi c├ó
ntecele.(same for number 7 and 11)
4. Ascul┼úi anun┼úurile
.(same for number 8 and 12)
For future reference the two sentences are not correct; they are both in past tense. I will leave them for you to correct.Dominick_Korshanyenko
Sunday 13th of July 2008 03:17:46 AM
2. I listen to Lina. I listen to her.
6. He/she listens to Lina. He/she listens to her.
10. You listen to Lina. You listen to her.
Hmm dictionare is wrong then for c├óntecele. I will remember this. Thanks for the other corrections Anda! But I have another question: Why is anun┼úurile not in the dative. I listen to the anouncements
I knew the last two were in the past tense. I meant for future reference as in when I learn the past tense. ;) Are they still incorect though in the past tense. If they are I don't see what I did.anda
Sunday 13th of July 2008 03:39:36 AM
Then it is like this:
2. O ascult pe Lina. O ascult pe ea.
6. O ascult─â pe Lina. O ascult─â pe ea.
10. O ascul┼úi pe Lina. O ascul┼úi pe ea.
In these cases 'Lina' and 'ea' are in the Accusative.
'a asculta'(to listen to) has a Direct Object, that is why anun┼úuri/ announcements is in the Accusative and not in the Dative.
I must have misunderstood then, my bad.
Number 1 is correct, number 2 is supposed to be in the Accusative. Could you correct it, please? anda
Sunday 13th of July 2008 04:12:24 AM
Corecteaz─â gre┼čeli mele, v─â rog= Corecta┼úi-mi gre┼čelile, v─â rog!/ Corecta┼úi-mi, v─â rog, gre┼čelile!Dominick_Korshanyenko
Sunday 13th of July 2008 07:34:51 AM
Thanks again Anda so my real problem was that I thought that a asculta was accompanied by the Dative. I guess I got a lot of practice with using the Accusative then. :) Am I right that the pe ea is not necessary then?
Also here's some more sentences for me to practice the Dative then.
1. Ion ├«mi d─â cartea. Ion gives the book to me.
2. ├Ä┼úi dau cartea. I give the book to you.
3. ├Äi d─âm cartea. We give the book to him/her.
4. Ne da┼úi cartea. You (all) give the book to us.
5. Ei v─â dau cartea. They give the book to you (all).
6. Le dai cartea. You give the book to them.
And two examples in the past tense for future reference:
1. Mi-ai dat cartea. You gave the book to me.
2. ┼ói-a dat cartea. He gave the book to you.
Sunday 13th of July 2008 10:42:11 AM
From what I see, there's only one mistake.
Actually not a very big one. Ion ├«mi d─â cartea is the right order, the subject comes first. But it can be like you said also, if you want to emphasize that Ion is giving you the book and not someone else.anda
Sunday 13th of July 2008 01:36:33 PM
Kenny, please check number 5. I'll give you a hint, it's a matter of agreement between the subject and the verb.
The rest of the sentences are correct.
I agree with Sergiu on the word order, but like he said that is not actually a mistake.
In the case 'O ascult pe ea', 'pe ea' is indeed optional, because we know who performs the action from 'o'.Dominick_Korshanyenko
Sunday 13th of July 2008 11:20:34 PM
Thanks Sergiu and Anda. Hmm,
5. Ei v─â dau cartea. They give the book to you (all).
Do I need to specify they because d─â can mean both they give and he/she gives?anda
Monday 14th of July 2008 12:53:40 AM
"Do I need to specify they because d─â
can mean both they give and he/she gives?"
This is the problem, Kenny, d─â
means he/she gives
, for the third person plural it is ei dau
So number 5 is Ei v─â dau cartea
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 10:05:48 AM
Now I'd like to practice using adjectives. The ones with four forms.
1. Ion ├«mi d─â un roman interesant. Ion is giving me an interesting novel.
2. ├Ä┼úi dau o carte interesant─â. I'm giving you an interesting book.
3. ├Äi d─âm romani interesan┼úi. We are giving you some interesting novels.
4. Ne da┼úi c─âr┼úi interesante. You are giving us some interesting books.
5. ├Änt├ólnim fata frumoas─â. We're meeting the beautiful girl.
6. ├Änt├ólnim fetele frumoase. We're meeting the beautiful girls.
7. Cerul a fost clar ┼či albastru. The sky was clear and blue.
8. Apa a fost clar─â ┼či albastr─â. The water was clear and blue.
9. Pantofii nebuni sunt alba┼čtri. The crazy shoes are blue.
10. Apele au fost clare ┼či albastre. The waters were clear and blue.
11. Acest lucru este greu. This thing is heavy.
12. Munca este grea. The work is hard.
13. Leii mari sunt foarte grei. The large lions are very heavy.
14. Muncile sunt grele. The jobs are hard.
How'd I do? :panda
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 01:26:08 PM
Very good, Kenny:), except for number 3. Do you think you can correct it by yourself?
And what do you mean by 'crazy shoes', is it an Elvis reference or something?Dominick_Korshanyenko
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 08:41:26 PM
3. ├Äi d─âm romani interesan┼úi. We are giving him
some interesting novels.
I put the wrong subject in the translation! :)
As for the crazy shoes and the large lions too. When I was making these sentences I realized that I had used neuter nouns to describe. So I needed some masculine plural nouns to use and winged it as the expression goes. However the crazy shoes do have a back story ;)
In my Spanish class there was a very funny guy named Juan Garcia. But whenever we would do vocabulary especially with adjectives Mrs. Matheny my Spanish teacher would make up sentences about Juan's shoes, which were large, colorful, and well crazy. So she would say things like:
Los zapatos de Juan son exagerados!
Juan's shoes are outrageous!
Los zapatos de Juan son locos!
Juan's shoes are crazy!
Los zapatos de Juan son azules, anaranjados, amarillos, rojos, y verdes.
Juan's shoes are blue, orange, yellow, red, and green.anda
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 09:25:29 PM
Number 3 is still wrong. Hint: the plural of "roman" isn't "romani", therefore the adjective isn't "interesan┼úi".
Funny story what you said about Juan. I guess he is famous now.Dominick_Korshanyenko
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 11:20:06 PM
Hmm, I don't know. But I can guess. :)
Maybe it's romane or romanuri which would mean its neuter not masculine.
Or maybe its just special and I have absolutely no clue.anda
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 11:23:02 PM
You guessed it right. It is "romane". So this makes it: '├Äi d─âm romane interesante
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 11:38:09 PM
Thanks a lot Anda! :) How about these three form adjectives.
1. Am un c├óine mic.
2. Ai o pisic─â mic─â.
3. Are c├óini mici.
4. Avem pisici mici.
1. Geamul este larg.
2. Strada este larg─â.
3. Geamuri sunt largi.
4. Str─âzile sunt largi.
5. Acest obiect este ro┼ču.
6. Aceast─â cas─â este ro┼čie.
7. Aceste obiecte sunt ro┼čii.
8. Aceste case sunt ro┼čii.
9. Eu sunt viu.
10. Tu e┼čti vie.
11. Noi suntem vii.
12. Ele sunt vii.
13. El este un om fermec─âtor.
14. Ea este o femeie fermec─âtoare.
15. Oamenii sunt fermec─âtori.
16. Femeile sunt fermec─âtoare.anda
Tuesday 15th of July 2008 11:49:08 PM
You seem to have something against number 3, Kenny:D
Check "3. Geamuri sunt largi."
The rest is perfectly correct.
Depending on the context instead of 'om' it is also used 'b─ârbat'. In English both 'om' and 'b─ârbat' mean 'man'.
Again, depending on the context 'om' is also 'human'. Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 16th of July 2008 12:00:12 AM
Uf! I don't know. But hopefully geamuri is the plural of geam otherwise I will go crazy.
About om. I know its just I like it better. If I can get away with it when I finally get to Romania then that'll be great. To me om sounds better and is more like:
Italian: uomo- man
Spanish: hombre- man
French: homme- man
But if b─ârbat is more used then I'll use it. :p I'm surprised at myself I actually know a French word off the top of my head. Cool.anda
Wednesday 16th of July 2008 12:11:46 AM
'om' is fine and I told you, it depends on the context.
'geamuri' is indeed the plural of 'geam', but you forgot the article.
This means that it is like this: 'Geamurile sunt largi.'Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 16th of July 2008 03:04:04 AM
Thanks again Anda! :)
How about these two form adjectives and one form adjectives:
1. V─âd un pom mare.
2. Vezi o cas─â mare.
3. Vede pomi mari.
4. Vedem case mari.
5. Pomul este verde.
6. Iarba este verde.
7. Pomii sunt verzi.
8. Ierburile sunt verzi.
9. El este vechi.
10. Ea este veche.
11. Ei sunt vechi.
12. Ele sunt vechi.
13. Soare este g─âlbui.
14. Lumina este g─âlbuie.
15. Sorii sunt g─âlbui.
16. Lumini sunt g─âlbui.
14. Aceast─â metod─â este eficace.
15. Acest b─ârbat este cumsecade.
16. Aceste metode sunt eficace.
17. Ace┼čti b─ârba┼úi sunt cumsecade.
18. Acestea este o rochie roz.
19. Marea este foarte bleu ast─âzi.
20. Cl─âdirea este mare ┼či gri.
21. Murd─ârie este maro.
P.S. Is my Romanian sentence in my signature correct? I'm surprised no one's said any corrections about it yet. :)anda
Wednesday 16th of July 2008 01:43:44 PM
When you are referring to a person or an animal you use 'b─âtr├ón' for 'old'; 'vechi' is used for objects.
B─ârbatul este b─âtr├ón. The man is old.
Casa este veche. The house is old.
'g─âlbui' means 'yellowish'. If you meant to say 'yellow' that is 'galben'.
You forgot the article at numbers 13, 16 and 21.
Number 18- 'acestea' is plural, while 'rochie' is singular.
Wednesday 16th of July 2008 01:46:00 PM
About your signature, in terms of grammar it is correct, but it sounds strange. Could you give the translation so I can see what you meant?Dominick_Korshanyenko
Thursday 17th of July 2008 01:30:33 AM
So many silly mistakes. Thanks Anda! I did mean yelowish because it's a two form adjective. Normally I would use galben but this is just practicing. It seems like I always number these wrong once again there are multiples of numbers. :p
9. Pomul este vechi.
10. Casa este veche.
11. Pomii sunt vechi.
12. Casele sunt vechi.
13. Soarele este g─âlbui.
16. Luminile sunt g─âlbui.
21. Murd─âria este maro.
18. Aceasta este o rochie roz.
Thursday 17th of July 2008 01:32:54 AM
Tr─âie┼čte cu o priveli┼čte vioaie, ┼či to┼úi s─â fie minuna┼úi!
Live with a vivid outlook, and everything will be wonderful!
I think it may sound better if I add "in life" after outlook or change vivid to positive. What do you think?anda
Thursday 17th of July 2008 03:09:40 AM
You corrected all your mistakes.
As for your signature: from your English translation it should be something like this: Tr─âie┼čte cu o perspectiv─â optimist─â(asupra vie┼úii) ┼či totul va fi minunat.
The parenthesis is the 'in life' you were talking about, I think you should add it. Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 26th of November 2008 08:15:37 AM
Hey I'm back after a long absence. I've missed the Romanian Discussion and hopefully I can become more active again. I need help again too. :D The thing that gives me the most trouble in Romanian is adjectives believe it or not. Can you tell me if these sentences are correct? I have 25 sets of four but I'll ask them in parts.
1. B─âiatul este t├ón─âr. Fata este t├ón─âr─â. B─âie┼úii sunt t├ón─âri. Fetele sunt t├ón─âre.
The boy is young. The girl is young. The boys are young. The girls are young.
2. B─ârbatul este b─âtr├ón. Femeia este b─âtr├ón─â. B─ârba┼úii sunt b─âtr├óni. Femile sunt b─âtr├óne.
The man is old. The woman is old. The men are old. The women are old.
3. Omul este slab. Persoana este slab─â. Oamenii sunt slabi. Persoanele sunt slabe.
The person is thin. The person is thin. The people are thin. The people are thin.
4. B─ârbatul este gras. Femeia este gras─â. B─ârba┼úii sunt gra┼či. Femeile sunt grase.
The man is fat. The woman is fat. The men are fat. The women are fat.
5. Omul este ur├ót. Persoana este ur├ót─â. Oamenii sunt ur├ó┼úi. Persoanele sunt ur├óte.
The person is ugly. The person is ugly. The people are ugly. The people are ugly.
6. Copilul este mic. Fata este mic─â. Copiii sunt mici. Fetele sunt mici.
The child is small. The girl is small. The children are small. The girls are small.
7. Obiectul este mare. Casa este mare. Obiectele sunt mari. Casele sunt mari.
The object is big. The house is big. The objects are big. The houses are big.
8. Studentul este calm. Studenta este calm─â. Studen┼úii sunt calmi. Studente sunt calme.
The student is calm. The student is calm. The students are calm. The students are calm.
9. Copilul este timid. Persoana este timid─â. Copiii sunt timizi. Persoanele sunt timide.
The child is shy. The person is shy. The children are shy. The people are shy.
10. Studentul este inteligent. Studenta este inteligent─â. Studen┼úii sunt inteligen┼úi. Studente sunt inteligente.
The student is intelligent. The student is intelligent. The students are intelligent. The students are intelligent.
Wednesday 26th of November 2008 07:30:05 PM
B─âie╚Ťii sunt tineri. Fetele sunt tinere.
The rest is correct, Kenny!Dominick_Korshanyenko
Thursday 27th of November 2008 12:50:49 AM
Whoo! Thanks Anda! :D I have a couple more and some of these I'm not too sure about especially because I think there are mutations.
11. Eu sunt de┼čtept. Tu e┼čti de┼čteapt─â. Noi suntem de┼čtep┼úi. Voi sunte┼úi de┼čtepte.
I am smart. You are smart. We are smart. You all are smart.
12. Studentul este prost. Studenta este prost─â. Studen┼úii sunt pro┼čti. Studntele sunt proste.
The student is stupid. The student is stupid. The students are stupid. The students are stupid.
13. B─âiatul este fericit. Fata este fericit─â. B─âie┼úii sunt ferici┼úi. Fetele sunt fericite.
The boy is happy. The girl is happy. The boys are happy. The girls are happy.
14. B─ârbatul este trist. Femeia este trist─â. B─ârba┼úii sunt tri┼čti. Femeile sunt triste.
The man is sad. The woman is sad. The men are sad. The women are sad.
15. Omul este interesant. Persoana este interesant─â. Oamenii sunt interesan┼úi. Persoanele sunt interesante.
The person is interesting. The person is interesting. The people are interesting. The people are interesting.
16. Omul este bun. Persoana este bun─â. Oamenii sunt buni. Persoanele sunt bune.
The person is good. The person is good. The people are good. The people are good.
17. Omul este r─âu. Persoana este rea. Oamenii sunt r─âi. Persoanele sunt rele.
The person is bad. The person is bad. The people are bad. The people are bad.
18. Studentul este lene┼č. Studenta este lenea┼č─â. Studen┼úii sunt lene┼či. Studentele sunt lene┼če.
The student is lazy. The student is lazy. The students are lazy. The students are lazy.
19. Studentul este popular. Studenta este popular─â. Studen┼úii sunt populari. Studentele sunt populare.
The student is popular. The student is popular. The students are popular. The students are popular.
20. B─ârbatul este amabil. Femeia este amabil─â. B─ârba┼úii sunt amabili. Femeile sunt amabile.
The man is kink. The woman is kind. The men are kind. The women are kind.anda
Thursday 27th of November 2008 04:34:48 PM
Studenta este proast─â. Studentele sunt proaste.
Studenta este lene╚Ö─â.
The rest is correct, Kenny!Dominick_Korshanyenko
Thursday 27th of November 2008 10:34:26 PM
Whoo! :D I'm proud of myself! There's only 5 more and then I'll consider myself done with adjectives for now.
21. El este un om organizat. Ea este o persoan─â organizat─â. Noi suntem oameni organiza┼úi. Voi sunte┼úi persoane organizate.
He is an organized person. She is an organized person. We are organized people. You all are organized people.
22. El este un b─ârbat ├«nalt. Ea este o femeie ├«nalt─â. Ei sunt b─ârba┼úi ├«nal┼úi. Ele sunt femei ├«nalte.
He is a tall man. She is a tall woman. They are tall men. They are tall women.
23. El este un b─âiat scund. Ea este o fat─â scund─â. Ei sunt b─âie┼úi scundi. Ele sunt fete scunde.
He is a short boy. She is a short girl. They are short boys. They are short girls.
24. El este un om frumos. Ea este o persoan─â frumoas─â. Ei sunt oameni frumo┼či. Ele sunt persoane frumoase.
He is a handsome person. She is a beautiful person. They are beautiful people. They are beautiful people.
25. Animalul este viu. Planta este vie. Animalurile sunt vii. Plantele sunt vii.
The animal is alive. The plant is alive. The animals are alive. The plants are alive.
Acum eu sunt ├«ncrez─âtor despre adjective. Crezi c─â le ┼čtiu destul de bine?
Now I am confident about adjectives. Do you thing I know them well enough?anda
Friday 28th of November 2008 01:31:44 AM
Ei sunt scunzi.
Da, te descurci bine cu adjectivele. Bravo!
Yes, you are handling the adjectives well. Good job!mike111
Wednesday 03rd of December 2008 04:49:02 AM
good job Kenny. I have to ask out of curiosity... Do you reference things while working on this or is it all from your head?Dominick_Korshanyenko
Wednesday 03rd of December 2008 08:15:29 AM
It comes from my head. :D I make vocab lists related to what I'm learning then make a bunch of practice sentences. I actually wrote this all out and then typed it in here. Writing/Typing it twice helps me remember it. ;)
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