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HollsShann Monday 02nd of May 2005 11:18:36 AM
More Questions for my Project - 1. What is the word order for the transitive clause? (subject, verb, and object)
How would these sentences be translated into Romanian?
- Chris ate a tomato.
- Chris saw a tree.
- The child caught the ball.
Can you change the order (subject,verb,object) without changing the meaning?

2. Describe any prepositions or postpositions.
- Chris went to Seattle.
- Chris is from Seattle.
- Chris lives in Seattle.
- Chris ate the tomato with a fork.

3. Genetive (Possessive Construction) Where does the possessor come, before or after the possession?
- Joe's book.
- The child's book.
- That child's eye.

4.Describe the normal order of determiners, numbers, adjectives and head nouns in noun phrases in the language
- The two big tomatoes.
- These three small books.

Ahhhh... sorry thats so much at once! The semester is getting down to the wire and my language partner is impossible to contact so I am quite behind. Anything you can offer is ultimately appreciated!

Thanks,
Hollie

lorelai Monday 02nd of May 2005 11:50:23 PM
- Hi Holls

Let's see if I can help you out a little bit:

1. In Romanian, the subject usually comes first, before the verb; the regular word order is: Subject+verb+direct object+ indirect object. However, this is not a very strict rule, as you will notice numerous exceptions from this pattern.
Translations:

Chris a mâncat o roşie.
Chris a văzut un copac.
Copilul a prins mingea.

It is possible to change the word order,to achieve a certain effect while conveying approximately the same meaning; for example, you could say "O roşie a mâncat Chris", if you want to emphasize the fact that Chris only ate ONE tomato, not more.
This also happens in literary language.

2. Chris a fost LA Seattle.
Chris e DIN Seattle.
Chris locuieşte ÎN Seattle.
Chris a mâncat roşia CU furculiţa.

La, din, în, cu - are prepositions. In contrast with English, the meaning of a verb it is not modified in Romanian by the addition of different prepositions.
As far as I know, postposition is only a stylistic device in Romanian.

3. The possession comes before the possessor, e.g. "cartea lui Joe"- "Joe´s book", "cartea copilului"- "The child's book", "ochiul acelui copil" (also used as "ochiul copilului aceluia") - "That child's eye".

4. Number+ Noun+ Adjectives (there is not a set order for different types of adjectives. e.g. "Cartea roşie, mică"="Cartea mică, roşie"= "The small red book").
The noun phrase that includes a numeral and a noun, is preceded by "cea, cei, cele, cei":

Cele două roşii mari şi roşii. ;)
Cele trei cărţi mici.

HollsShann Tuesday 03rd of May 2005 12:04:30 AM
- THANK YOU... this forum is fantastic!

-Hollie

La_Pluie Wednesday 04th of May 2005 07:25:42 PM
- Mişto... Asta mi-a ajutat. Hmm... Cum se spune "that helped me ALSO"?

lorelai Wednesday 04th of May 2005 08:09:08 PM
- "That helped me also" can be translated as "aceasta (asta) m-a ajutat de asemenea" or "şi aceasta (asta) m-a ajutat".

La_Pluie Saturday 07th of May 2005 11:15:47 PM
- Mulţumesc. Şi aceasta m-a ajutat. :P

Cele două românce nebune. :D

Phrasebase Archive
	HollsShann	Monday 02nd of May 2005 11:18:36 AM
	More Questions for my Project - 1. What is the word order for the transitive clause? (subject, verb, and object) How would these sentences be translated into Romanian? - Chris ate a tomato. - Chris saw a tree. - The child caught the ball. Can you change the order (subject,verb,object) without changing the meaning? 2. Describe any prepositions or postpositions. - Chris went to Seattle. - Chris is from Seattle. - Chris lives in Seattle. - Chris ate the tomato with a fork. 3. Genetive (Possessive Construction) Where does the possessor come, before or after the possession? - Joe's book. - The child's book. - That child's eye. 4.Describe the normal order of determiners, numbers, adjectives and head nouns in noun phrases in the language - The two big tomatoes. - These three small books. Ahhhh... sorry thats so much at once! The semester is getting down to the wire and my language partner is impossible to contact so I am quite behind. Anything you can offer is ultimately appreciated! Thanks, Hollie
	lorelai	Monday 02nd of May 2005 11:50:23 PM
	- Hi Holls Let's see if I can help you out a little bit: 1. In Romanian, the subject usually comes first, before the verb; the regular word order is: Subject+verb+direct object+ indirect object. However, this is not a very strict rule, as you will notice numerous exceptions from this pattern. Translations: Chris a mâncat o roşie. Chris a văzut un copac. Copilul a prins mingea. It is possible to change the word order,to achieve a certain effect while conveying approximately the same meaning; for example, you could say "O roşie a mâncat Chris", if you want to emphasize the fact that Chris only ate ONE tomato, not more. This also happens in literary language. 2. Chris a fost LA Seattle. Chris e DIN Seattle. Chris locuieşte ÎN Seattle. Chris a mâncat roşia CU furculiţa. La, din, în, cu - are prepositions. In contrast with English, the meaning of a verb it is not modified in Romanian by the addition of different prepositions. As far as I know, postposition is only a stylistic device in Romanian. 3. The possession comes before the possessor, e.g. "cartea lui Joe"- "Joe´s book", "cartea copilului"- "The child's book", "ochiul acelui copil" (also used as "ochiul copilului aceluia") - "That child's eye". 4. Number+ Noun+ Adjectives (there is not a set order for different types of adjectives. e.g. "Cartea roşie, mică"="Cartea mică, roşie"= "The small red book"). The noun phrase that includes a numeral and a noun, is preceded by "cea, cei, cele, cei": Cele două roşii mari şi roşii. ;) Cele trei cărţi mici.
	HollsShann	Tuesday 03rd of May 2005 12:04:30 AM
	- THANK YOU... this forum is fantastic! -Hollie
	La_Pluie	Wednesday 04th of May 2005 07:25:42 PM
	- Mişto... Asta mi-a ajutat. Hmm... Cum se spune "that helped me ALSO"?
	lorelai	Wednesday 04th of May 2005 08:09:08 PM
	- "That helped me also" can be translated as "aceasta (asta) m-a ajutat de asemenea" or "şi aceasta (asta) m-a ajutat".
	La_Pluie	Saturday 07th of May 2005 11:15:47 PM
	- Mulţumesc. Şi aceasta m-a ajutat. :P Cele două românce nebune. :D