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Anonymous
Sunday 13th of April 2008 02:43:14 AM
Similitudes between Romanian culture and other cultures: Ok...this is my first opened topic :D so everyone congratulate me! :P In this topic you can share anything you know about similitudes between Romanian culture and other cultures...

its your turn now :P

is it ok Lina? :D


Anonymous
Sunday 13th of April 2008 03:03:34 AM
I dont know is this 'culture' but I think it deserves atention, I cant post the original, because that site is not working anymore but I have the newspaper in Macedonian and I will translate it:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1955/skenirani005si7.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3439/skenirani003an5.jpg

its about Georghe Hagi, maybe the best Romanian football player ever...in this article you can read about Hagi's Macedonian roots...his parents are from Kavala(Macedonian teritory till 1913, and Greek after that), they moved to Romania in 1932...most interesting fact is that in Romanian national team, for the qualifying games for World Cup 1998, he played all the games for Romaina, except the games agains Macedonia, and no one found why he wasnt playing. :D His second wife is also Macedonian....so...

Georghe Hagi, one of the greatest Macedonians :D ;)


Simeon_C
Sunday 13th of April 2008 12:04:50 PM
I don't now what your intention is mate. But saying Hagi was Macedonian in a Romanian language forum makes me think you are looking for a quarrel. I don't believe Hagi has ever made a statement where he admits to being Macedonian. How would you feel if a Greek went to the Macedonian language forum and attacked the origins of your ancestry?


Anonymous
Sunday 13th of April 2008 03:41:16 PM
Originally posted by Simeon_CI don't now what your intention is mate. But saying Hagi was Macedonian in a Romanian language forum makes me think you are looking for a quarrel. I don't believe Hagi has ever made a statement where he admits to being Macedonian. How would you feel if a Greek went to the Macedonian language forum and attacked the origins of your ancestry?

I wasn't intend to offend you or someone else, all I posted is a story that I found it on the net, and at the beginning of my topic I clearly say Georghe Hagi, maybe the best ROMANIAN football player ever...if his parents are coming from Kavala, then his roots are Macedonians, thats all I wanted to say...if you feel offended, ok, I am asking Lina then to erase my post, I am not allowed to do that...and If Greek went to the Macedonian language forum and attacked the origins of my ancestry, then it would be politics...I was trying to be friendly here...

Here something about Romanians here:
Republic of Macedonia: Romanians call them Macedo-Romanians. In Macedonia they are also known as Cincari. The Aromani, as they prefer to identify themselves, are a distinct ethnic community. They are concentrated around Bitola, Resen and Krusevo. The population is declining, mainly due to assimilation, which is hastened by the migration of the young people to larger towns where they find jobs in industry. About 6,400 declared themselves Aromanians but the number of those who still consider themselves as a different ethnic group is far greater. They appealed to a Balkan Foreign Ministers Conference in 1988 to be recognized as a separate ethnic group in order to benefit from education in their own idiom.

In the Republic of Macedonia the Aromanians now have a far better situation compared to other communities. They are represented in the Parliament and the constitution stipulates the right of national minorities to study in their own language.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/romanian/articles/aromani.html

and here is a list of Aromanians, its Wikipedia, not me:

- Manakis brothers (Yanaki and Milton), film and photography; pioneers in the Balkans, from Avdela, Prefecture of Grevena, Macedonia, Greece;
- Tomislav Osmanli, director and writer from Republic of Macedonia
- Kaliopi Bukle, Popular singer in Republic of Macedonia
- George Marcu, Macedonian Vlach,born in Veria,(Greece), professor and popular singer of old Macedonian songs in Romania
- Marica Pitu, Macedonian Vlach, born in Veria,Macedonia(Greece),popular singer of old Macedonian(Songs in Romania
- Krste Pavlovski-Levako,Macedonian Vlach,one of the greatest virtuosos on accordion
- Hrista Lupci,Macedonian Vlach,one of the greatest composers of Arman songs and the most popular singer of old Arman songs in Romania
- Gica Coada,Macedonian Vlach,popular singer of old Macedonian songs in Romania
- Sirma Granzula,Macedonian Vlach,music professor and popular singer of old Macedonian songs in Romania
- Toše Proeski, Macedonian Vlach, popular singer of Macedonian pop - songs
- Atanase Iorghita, vlach singer from Macedonia
- Pero Tsatsa, vlach singer from Macedonia
- Pitu Guli, Duke of Macedonia; Military commander in IMRO; Macedonian revolutionary leader, died defending the Krushevo Republic during the Ilinden Uprising in 1903. His memory is celebrated in Republic of Macedonia's national anthem.
- Hari Kostov, Macedonian Prime Minister June 2004 - November 2004, Minister of Internal Affairs 2002 - 2004
- Vangel Dinu, President and Primeminister of the first Macedonian government formed during the Krushevo Republic in 1903
- Georgi Chache, Minister of Requisition; member of the government formed in Macedonia during the Krusevo Republic and the Ilinden Uprising of 1903
- Nikola Bailu, Minister of Health, Krushevo Republic in Macedonia during Ilinden 1903
- Taki Fiti, Macedonian Minister of Finance, 1996-1998, Professor at the Faculty of Economics, Skopje, Republic of Macedonia
- Nico Popnicola, Scientist from Macedonia
- Kocho Sidovski, Macedonian historian
- Dominique Moceanu, Macedonian Vlach,born in Tampa,Florida, US National Gymnastics Team
- Alexandra Bujduveanu, Macedonian Vlach, Ice Skating,Romania
- Gheorghe Hagi, famous Romanian football player
- Joshko Milenkovski, manager of the Macedonian Volleyball Team, Manager of Rabotnicki Fersped, the Macedonian volleyball champion
- Constantin Belimace, poet, author of Aromanian national anthem Dimândarea p?rinteasc? from the Bitola (Monastir) region of Macedonia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aromanians

but I guess I was trying to steal Hagi from Romanians...


Lina
Sunday 13th of April 2008 08:56:24 PM
Kotle, congratulation!!! This is a great topic and I like it already!

Thanks for all your information about the Vlachs. Searching for Aromanians, I've found an interesting article written in 9 languages regarding their presence in Southeast of Europe.

http://www.balkan-info.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/articles/2005/05/09/reportage-01

It is a good thing that Simeon told us his point of view! I appreciate that, but I see no reason why we cannot talk in the Romanian forum about our greatest football player Hagi and his origins. Even he is Macedonian:D he is still a great Romanian for all Romanians!

I'm sure we'll find in this way many similarities regarding our history, culture, customs, traditions and languages.




Simeon_C
Monday 14th of April 2008 01:26:12 AM
Sorry about my harsh response Kotle. I misunderstood your message. I don't know too much about Hagi, but I do know that my Romanian friends idolize him. So when you came and suggested that he could be Macedonian, I really thought you meant it in a bad way.

I do like your topic, I've already learned something new. I never heard of Aromanians before. I have heard of Vlachs, but I must confess that I do not know much about them, and I'm curious about where they come from.


Anonymous
Monday 14th of April 2008 08:27:43 PM
No problem Simeon! ;)

These days I am trying to find out as much as I can for Vlachs, so I will contact a friend, he teaches history, so I hope I will find something new and interesting...and post it here! :D

Now, Lina mentioned something about common things in history, culture, customs, traditions and languages. But! Lina forgot about the FOOD(hran?)! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_food
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

So...here are common things that I found...

ardei umplu?i - polneti piperki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardei_umplu%C5%A3i

chiftea - kjofte
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kofta

m?m?lig? - kachamak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%83m%C4%83lig%C4%83

musaca - musaka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musaca

sarmale - sarma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarma_%28food%29


desserts:

baclava - baklava
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baclava#External_links

halva - alva
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva

coliv? - blaga pcenica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coliv%C4%83


drinks (I wont mention beer and wine):

rachiu - rakija
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachiu

I also have to mention that I found few words that I know but I was not sure is it the same food, for example pandi?pan, orez cu lapte (rice prepared with milk?)...I hope my post is not to long and boring because of the links...now I have to go...I feel hungry...I don't know why. :D


mike111
Wednesday 16th of April 2008 06:05:37 PM
Congrats kotle. Interesting thread.

Perhaps, everyone has heard this english phrase but if not: "you learn something new everyday".

Already, at 6:45 am I learned a little bit about Georghe Hagi!:D'

I have some ideas for this post, I'll add them at some point.





Lina
Thursday 17th of April 2008 12:04:25 AM

Pân? la urm? vom g?si multe asem?n?ri, nea?teptate chiar! Apropo de mâncare, mi-e poft? de o baclava turceasc?!

We'll find a lot of unexpected similitudes, eventually! By the way, talking about food right now I would love a Turkish:D baklava!


Lina
Friday 25th of April 2008 09:55:53 PM

Searching about Easter holidays, I found this legend...

"An old Nordic legend describes how one winter goddess Eostre finds a bird on a field. In order to rescue it from the death, the goddess turns it into a rabbit, preserving its ability to lay eggs. Wishing to thank her, the rabbit colored the eggs and offers them to the goddess.
Inside the Dutch community in Pennsylvania, the legend is still told, on Easter time children here wait for rabbit to come and set up a nest full of colored eggs. This legend also gave birth to the tradition that the rabbit should bring gifts to children"






mike111
Wednesday 30th of April 2008 05:29:11 PM
Wow, that's an interesting story! I've never heard that before. I'll have to ask someone who was born here if thay've heard of this.


Anonymous
Sunday 25th of May 2008 12:09:29 AM
Lina, I am leaving again tomorrow, so I want to ask you if you can find something more about Alexandru Macedonski...I am interested what is his connection with Macedonia...I will be back again next weekend so you have time :)


Lina
Sunday 25th of May 2008 12:44:51 AM
Kotle, e?ti acas?? Î?i este bine în armat?? Cu siguran??, din moment ce te intereseaza Macedonski:D Bine, ce pot s?-?i spun chiar acum este c? se nume?te "poetul rozelor". Sigur este macedonian!

Kotle, are you at home? Are you doing well in the army? Certainly yes, if you ask about Macedonski. What can I say just now about him is that our great poet is called the "poet of roses". Certainly he is macedonian!

OK, if is so important for you, I'll find all about Macedonski until next week:)

Armat? u?oar?!

Lina


Anonymous
Sunday 25th of May 2008 08:40:10 AM
Armat? is great :D and DA, I am at home now, but leaving tomorrow already :(
I will have free weekend next week, and after that I will have only one weekend per month...that means I will check did you finished your homework next week :D
I also wanted to make this topic stay active :)


Anonymous
Sunday 25th of May 2008 09:40:02 PM
I have some free time till my train, so in mean time I will tell some new words I found, same as Macedonian words...

frizur? - frizura(???????)
stomac - stomak(??????)
tastatur? - tastatura(?????????)
c?mila - kamila(??????)
veveri?? - ververica(?????????)
maus - maus(????)
pantaloni - pantaloni(?????????)
ciorapi - corapi(??????)
costum ?i cravat? - kostum i kravata(????u? ? ???????)

now I must go, but I will post more next time ;)

bye and be good!


daniela
Wednesday 28th of May 2008 08:14:59 PM
similitudes between Romanian culture and other cultures...: Hello KotleOfMacedon,

This is Daniela from Bucharest.
I congratulate you for you choice of the first topic for discussion.
This is my first time on this forum, as well. Your topic is very interesting. I am curious to see what similarities and differences we can think of.

Would you like to start? I suggest folk traditional costumes "costumele populare" and folk music "muzica popular?"

What do you think? "Ce p?rere ai?"

Daniela



Lina
Sunday 01st of June 2008 07:26:38 PM

Kotle, nu mi-am f?cut tema:( Nu mai ?tiu nimic de Macedonski. Tu ai mai aflat ceva de el?:D

I didn't do my homework! I don't know anything else about Macedonsky. Do you know something new about him?

Un sfâr?it de s?pt?mân? pl?cut/Have a nice weekend!

Lina


Originally posted by KotleOfMacedonArmat? is great :D and DA, I am at home now, but leaving tomorrow already :(
I will have free weekend next week, and after that I will have only one weekend per month...that means I will check did you finished your homework next week :D
I also wanted to make this topic stay active :)


Anonymous
Sunday 01st of June 2008 07:50:56 PM
Here what I found...I will need translation of this if its have something interesting:

http://www.romanianvoice.com/poezii/biblio/bib_macedonski.php

and this explains something...

http://www.perfectpeople.net/biography/5158/alexandru-macedonski.htm

Alexandru Macedonski (also spelled Alexandru Macedonschi; March 14, 1854, Bucharest— November 24, 1920), the grandson of Dimitrie Macedonski, was a Romanian writer and literary critic...

Dimitrie Macedonski (Dimitar Makedonski) was the name of my primary school :D

I don't have much time now :( so I will search more next time, how did Alexandru ended in Romania :)...

be good...

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