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Saturday 17th of June 2006 10:08:17 AMSome basics please!:
I am going to be starting a course in Spanish and would like to know some basics to get me started. Especially in grammar. If whoever offers to help would like something in return, then I can offer my lingual services. They are basic German, and of course, English. Please send me a PM, for more information. Thank you!Brucey
Sunday 27th of August 2006 05:32:28 AMgrammar advice:
I believe the best favor you can do yourself is to get the paperback book "Essential Spanish Grammar" by Seymour Resnick, published by Dover press. Once you know several dozen phrases, simply read it once and much of it will make sense instantly. It's only 108 pages and is an easy read. Start by reviewing pages 66-98. You'll have an impressive Spanish vocab in a couple days. Most grammar books overly complicate matters. This is the best i've seen.
When you read the grammar section, at first, don't worry if you remember or even understand everything. Just make note of the examples and absorb the main sense of each unit. As you take your course, return to the relevant units in order to grasp the concepts thoroughly.
Most native English speakers have trouble with the words for 'to know', 'saber' and 'conocer'. It's this simple: conocer=kennen; saber=wissen. 'Hacer', like 'machen' means 'to make' or 'to do'. The other 2 sticky verbs both mean 'to be'. They are 'ser' and 'estar'. They are quite different. 'Ser' (from Latin 'essere') is the 'essence' of a thing, what it is through and through, pretty well permanently. 'Estar' (Latin, 'stare', to stand) is the 'state' of something, subject to change. Since who (quien) or what (que) someone/thing is is permanent, they usually combine with a form of 'ser'. Because how (como) or where (donde) a person/thing is constantly changes, these words generally combine with 'estar'.
The next important step is to get the book '501 Spanish Verbs' (Barron's Educational Series). As quickly as possible, learn the present and preterite of the following verbs:
ser, estar, saber, conocer, hacer, tener, ir, venir, necesitar, querer, and dar.
Learn those 11 verbs in those 2 tenses with a dozen or so nouns and you will be able to convey about three fourths of everything that's critical.
'Tener' is highly valuable, not only because it means 'to have' (an essential concept), but once you learn it, you have all the '-tain' words of English at no extra cost. If you use the more educated English word in everyday speech, this will help you. Keep>retain=retener. Get>obtain=obtener. Hold>contain=contener, etc. Also, tener que=to have to (do something) and will serve as 'must'. You just got another verb for free.
As in English and German, you'll find more complicated (and strictly more correct) ways to express past action. In time, you'll learn imperfect and compound tenses, but the preterite will be quite understandable, if you're willing to sacrifice perfection for communication in the beginning.
Learn 'ir' (to go) in the present and you will be able to express the future. Ir+a+infinitive=going to do (something). Later, you can learn the future conjugation, but this will get you by for now.
If you follow this process, you'll do fine. Before long, you'll be composing your own sentences with over 90% accuracy. Happy learningpableras28
Monday 28th of August 2006 09:01:11 PM
@deutsche_junge: Instead of posting alone in the forum, go to the Exchanging Tavern thread and post it your offer&petition, for others to see. If you all post your exchange offers around the forum, they will get lost soon, but if you post it at the sticky thread, they will stay visible for everybody.
@Brucey: haven't you got a similar guide to learn German? :p Congratulations on your great explanation and dedication.nicki
Tuesday 29th of August 2006 04:29:30 AM
Originally posted by pableras28
@Brucey: haven't you got a similar guide to learn German? :p
Your guide to learn German -> [url=http://www.phrasebase.com/discuss/board.php?FID=30]Übung macht den Meister :p
Aber du kannst doch schon Deutsch, Pablo! Und das sogar ziemlich gut. :Dpableras28
Friday 01st of September 2006 12:17:12 AM
Hahaha, du bist lustig! Ich wünschte es wäre wahr! Aber ich denke es gibt für mich noch viel zu lernen. Aber danke, für das, was du gesagt hast. Return to the SPANISH Archive
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