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JolinFriday 06th of January 2006 04:13:25 AM
Swedish sounds - I tried to make a compilation of the Swedish sounds. Maybe I forgot some, please tell me. I have excluded sounds which are only present in regional accents, however I have some remarks about accents.

The texts also have the example words, look at the text while you listen to the sound files.

Descriptive text for vowel sounds:
[url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/WovelSounds.txt[/url]
Vowel sounds with example words:
[url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/Vowels_w_words.wav[/url]
Vowel sounds without example words:
[url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/Vowels_no_words.wav[/url]
Descriptive text for consonant sounds:
[url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/ConsonantSounds.txt[/url]
Consonant sounds with example words:
[url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/Consonants_w_words.wav[/url]

I hope you will find it useful!


leloTuesday 24th of January 2006 05:27:04 PM
- yes it is easy way to know the sounds tack. but i want ask u whatis the diff in sound bn SKER and KÖR can u explen it.
RikardTuesday 24th of January 2006 05:38:15 PM
- [b][url=http://www.geocities.com/hoogrikard/sker.wav][i]sker[/i][/url][/b]
[b][url=http://www.geocities.com/hoogrikard/kor.wav][i]kör[/i][/url][/b]

Perhaps this can be of help?

I also naturally assumed that you meant [i]kör[/i] as in driving and not as in choir
MathieuTuesday 24th of January 2006 06:04:08 PM
- Me too.. as I didn't know the other word yet :p

A bit late, but thanks Jolin :) About the long ö's, does the one type always appear before an r and the other in the other cases? (like in Dutch).

Hehe that pulling air thing :D Just a thought, could it be 'jo' pronounced while breathing inwards or something? Because I know some people around here who say 'ja' "inwards" when listening to someone - really annoying if you pay attention to it :p
jolinWednesday 25th of January 2006 06:56:52 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by lelo[/i]


yes it is easy way to know the sounds tack. but i want ask u whatis the diff in sound bn SKER and KÖR can u explen it.[/quote]


"Sker" is pronounced with the sch sound. Since you are located in Northern Sweden, you will hear an English-like sch sound around you (like in English "she" but maybe a little sharper).

"Kör" (like Richard I assume you mean the word for "drives") uses the tj sound.

The northern "sch" is more close to the "tj" than the southern, standard "sch".
Say "which" in English, and remove the "t" part of the final "ch". Then compare the final result with the word "wish". You hear the difference?

Note that the spelling of the sounds has lots of varietes.

You have both the sch and tj sound in my sound examples, however it is the "Standard Swedish" sch sound. I might put in an example with the northern one, I use that one myself.

Like Teup says, the "pulling air" one is a "jo" pronounced while breathing inwards. I added it since I once was asked by an American Taiwanese studying Swedish (!!), what that inhaling sound was - he couldn't find it in the books...






jolinWednesday 25th of January 2006 07:03:05 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i]

About the long ö's, does the one type always appear before an r and the other in the other cases? (like in Dutch).

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I never thought about it - but I can't find an example which contradicts your rule!
Where I am located now, only the long ö variant found before "r" (according to your rule) is used. It is a well-known marker for people from the Östergötland region.




MathieuThursday 26th of January 2006 03:52:31 AM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by jolin[/i]
Like Teup says, the "pulling air" one is a "jo" pronounced while breathing inwards. I added it since I once was asked by an American Taiwanese studying Swedish (!!), what that inhaling sound was - he couldn't find it in the books...
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Haha cool, it actually ís :D Nice, I might just get the hang of this language some time after all :p (not that I think I'ma use this one but at least I understand :))

[quote][i]Originally posted by jolin[/i]
I never thought about it - but I can't find an example which contradicts your rule! [/quote]

Which one do you get before the 'l'? I assume it won't be the before 'r' one, but since in Dutch it sometimes is, I'm just checking..

jolinThursday 26th of January 2006 06:53:51 PM
- I cannot come up with any example of the "open" long ö before "l", just before "r".

Just a remark:
The short "ö" sound is similar to the "open" long ö (it is produced exactly the same way), but the short one could be in front of any consonant.

Another observation is that the long open ö sound used alone (ööööh), means "hey...!" in colloquial Swedish (especially among teenagers) :D







MathieuThursday 26th of January 2006 08:17:47 PM
- If I get it straight the short ö is, well, just an 'uh' sound; the one before 'r' is basically the same but longer, and the 3rd one is a diphtong, going slightly 'ah'-wards. That at least how I hear em.
Haha, that's a very.. effortless way of greeting then :p
RikardFriday 27th of January 2006 01:56:41 AM
- well it's a short and easy way of saying "Du" :D
jolinMonday 13th of February 2006 03:55:40 PM
Added a sj/tj sound special - I have added sound files for the Swedish sj and tj sounds.

The sj sound is in two variants, the standard southern and the northern, English-like.

You find the text at [url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/Tj_Sj_sound.txt[/url]

and the sound at [url]http://www.lyckhem.net/Swesound/Tj_sj_sound.wav[/url]

Hope it helps!


FraaczekFriday 29th of December 2006 07:48:09 PM
- I am very curious to know how do You pronaunciate \"de\" and \"dem\".
Does it depend on from which part of Sweden are you?:>
jolinSunday 31st of December 2006 02:11:01 AM
- In most parts of the country (and in standard Swedish) you pronounce both \"de\" and \"dem\" as \"dåmm\" (short å sound and the m pronounced).
This also leads to problems for many Swedes to write the correct form in text...

In some southern dialects, you will hear \"de\" pronounced as \"di\" (short \"i\" sound).





FraaczekTuesday 16th of January 2007 10:52:39 PM
- Thanks Jolin!
I was asking couse as you\'ve written in standard swedish which you can learn from all books it\'s explained as the first example you gave.
So I was confused when watching \"Ondskan\" and \"Mumin\";=] (a perfect way to learn swedish) I found that they say \"di\" ;=]
In Skåne and in lyrics of a finnish musicband I even heard it pronounciated as directly \"de\" with short \"e\" just as in pronoun \"det\"
JohannaEThursday 18th of January 2007 07:17:45 AM
- oh... the pronounciation of \"de\"...

In my dialect it\'s \"di\" (old people) or \"dåmm\"/\"dom\" (young people). \"dåmm\"/\"dom\" is the best way, since it\'s used in all of Sweden by young people, and if you move to the Swedish-speaking parts of Finland you just have to learn the local way.

Some stupid ones (in Sweden mostly) speak the language exactly as it\'s written, but it\'s not \"real\" Swedish, just ... strange. Actually you have to learn some words where a letter or two are missing when you pronounce it.


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