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mrbicrevise Sunday 22nd of January 2006 06:04:20 PM
Vill att -
I've come across "vill att" (which I'd assume means "want to") being used in a similar way in several sentences (e.g. "De vill att jag ser galen ut" "Chirac vill att europeisk sökmotor startas" and "Alla vill att jag ska spela som anfallare") but I can't figure out how "vill att" behaves/what the sentence even translates to in any of the given examples - could anyone explain?

Mathieu Sunday 22nd of January 2006 07:41:00 PM
- 'att' means 'that' as well as 'to'.

Jag försöker [[b]att[/b] se galen ut]
I try [[b]to[/b] look crazy]

De vill [[b]att[/b] jag ser galen ut]
They want [[b]that[/b] I look crazy] ( --> "They want me to look crazy"; this type of construction is typically English and doesn't exist in Swedish)

mrbicrevise Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:08:27 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i]

'att' means 'that' as well as 'to'.

Jag försöker [[b]att[/b] se galen ut]
I try [[b]to[/b] look crazy]

De vill [[b]att[/b] jag ser galen ut]
They want [[b]that[/b] I look crazy] ( --> "They want me to look crazy"; this type of construction is typically English and doesn't exist in Swedish)
[/quote]

Thanks, does the "ut" have to be there for the sentence to work/sound right, though (as in "ser...ut")?

Mathieu Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:14:28 PM
- 'att se ut' is a verb as a whole, it means 'to look', as in, the way you look, your appearance (whereas 'att titta' means 'to look' as in; to look at something or to watch something); 'att se' means 'to see'.
So, "Jag försöker att se galen" would sort of mean "I try to see crazy". So yes, the 'ut' is needed for the meaning.

mrbicrevise Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:17:22 PM
- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i]

'att se ut' is a verb as a whole, it means 'to look', as in, the way you look, your appearance (whereas 'att titta' means 'to look' as in; to look at something or to watch something); 'att se' means 'to see'.
So, "Jag försöker att se galen" would sort of mean "I try to see crazy". So yes, the 'ut' is needed for the meaning.[/quote]

I'll try to remember those, thanks :).

Rikard Monday 23rd of January 2006 03:24:49 AM
- Yep, Töp is right :D. He's good in explaining as well:)

Phrasebase Archive
	mrbicrevise	Sunday 22nd of January 2006 06:04:20 PM
	Vill att - I've come across "vill att" (which I'd assume means "want to") being used in a similar way in several sentences (e.g. "De vill att jag ser galen ut" "Chirac vill att europeisk sökmotor startas" and "Alla vill att jag ska spela som anfallare") but I can't figure out how "vill att" behaves/what the sentence even translates to in any of the given examples - could anyone explain?
	Mathieu	Sunday 22nd of January 2006 07:41:00 PM
	- 'att' means 'that' as well as 'to'. Jag försöker [[b]att[/b] se galen ut] I try [[b]to[/b] look crazy] De vill [[b]att[/b] jag ser galen ut] They want [[b]that[/b] I look crazy] ( --> "They want me to look crazy"; this type of construction is typically English and doesn't exist in Swedish)
	mrbicrevise	Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:08:27 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i] 'att' means 'that' as well as 'to'. Jag försöker [[b]att[/b] se galen ut] I try [[b]to[/b] look crazy] De vill [[b]att[/b] jag ser galen ut] They want [[b]that[/b] I look crazy] ( --> "They want me to look crazy"; this type of construction is typically English and doesn't exist in Swedish) [/quote] Thanks, does the "ut" have to be there for the sentence to work/sound right, though (as in "ser...ut")?
	Mathieu	Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:14:28 PM
	- 'att se ut' is a verb as a whole, it means 'to look', as in, the way you look, your appearance (whereas 'att titta' means 'to look' as in; to look at something or to watch something); 'att se' means 'to see'. So, "Jag försöker att se galen" would sort of mean "I try to see crazy". So yes, the 'ut' is needed for the meaning.
	mrbicrevise	Sunday 22nd of January 2006 08:17:22 PM
	- [quote][i]Originally posted by Teup[/i] 'att se ut' is a verb as a whole, it means 'to look', as in, the way you look, your appearance (whereas 'att titta' means 'to look' as in; to look at something or to watch something); 'att se' means 'to see'. So, "Jag försöker att se galen" would sort of mean "I try to see crazy". So yes, the 'ut' is needed for the meaning.[/quote] I'll try to remember those, thanks :).
	Rikard	Monday 23rd of January 2006 03:24:49 AM
	- Yep, Töp is right :D. He's good in explaining as well:)