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| Osman | Monday 05th of June 2006 03:10:15 AM |
| ** Why Turkish Language? ** - Hi Everybody / Herkese Merhaba Hope everything is allright for you all and it is going well with Turkish :) i know it can be a difficult language if you dont speak a language from same family group..but Turkish is not that difficult at all if you motivate yourself to achieve. Now i want you to write your reasons of learning Turkish. Why do you learn Turkish? or Why do you want to learn Turkish? If you learnt (bit), how come you learnt? share your techniques with us. it will also help me ;) Thank you very much in advance.. Şimdiden çok teşekkürler :) | |
| Nodir | Monday 05th of June 2006 07:29:22 PM |
| - Hello Osman, Saw the message posted and immediately desire appeared within me to lkearn Turkish. Actually I have been planning to learn Turkish for petty long time but din\'t have such an opportunity but, right now, I feel much better cuz I hope that you will teach me Turkish, In exchange I can teach you Russian or Uzbek which one you\'d like to learn? One more factor that made me to learn Turkish is a friend of mine is currently enrolled at some University don\'t remember exactly tyhe name of Unievrsity, probably Bosfor or something, doesn\'t mattrer I just want to converse with him in Turkish that would be really exciting!!!! Let me know what you think Truly Nodir | |
| Mery | Monday 05th of June 2006 08:13:35 PM |
| - Interesting topic Osman :) I started learning Turkish recently for different reasons. 1. In some job ads Turkish is required, so having Turkish on my CV is an asset. 2. I love the language, its accent... 3. I plan to visit Turkey shortly and might want to settle there for a while :p hence the necessity to know the language. 4. I know an awesome Turkish guy :p ;) I don\'t really have any particular techniques to learn Turkish. I just try to become familiar with the language. I don\'t really feel like learning from books. I prefer taking part in your games and read your lessons. Thanks very much for all you\'ve done for us!!! :) | |
| daisyc | Monday 05th of June 2006 09:21:54 PM |
| - hey Osman... I love languages. My first love was French which i\'m trying to learn too. Second was english and i became an english teacher. Then I met these great people through internet and guess what nationality they were? ... ;) yes, that\'s right. I\'d love to visit Turkey in the near future and being able to communicate in that language would be just great even though i know that most turkish people speak excellent english !! So ... there it is. I\'m falling for Turkish cause turkish people are great ... no ..wait, let me say it again... turkish people are GREAT !!! :) | |
| _ie | Tuesday 06th of June 2006 03:44:13 PM |
| Why started to learn Turkish? - Well, tried to tell you that yesterday but suddenly lost connection to this site and lost all, so now trying to write it again. 1)met a pleasant Turk in net who taught me the word \"merhaba\", it sounded so exotic, at the same time so familiar that started to like this word. 2)this Turk used sometimes Turkish nicknames in msn and my curiosity wanted to know the meaning, did not want to ask all the time. 3)Since the age of 13 have wanted to learn an exotic language, did not search it, it just found me. Turkish found me. 4)Turkish is so rare language in Estonia, if 2 people can talk it in here in street, noone would understand, imagine, which possibilities to talk about secrets in public:D. 5)met another pleasant person, after some time found out he is a Turk too, if one day we shall meet, it would be nice to communicate using this language. 6)maybe I shall move to Turkey one day :P. 7)I like to find similarities of 2language, and by learning this language it is a lot easier to find similarities...and a lot more reasons. I searched for months some Turkish-Estonian, but without luck, there is no estonian-turkish grammar or dictionary, could find only a little phrasebook. So found an English-Turkish course, Colloquial Turkish, which am using now. And sometimes practising with Turk contact but rare. Mostly to check my knowledge. Turkish has an amazing sound. | |
| Osman | Tuesday 06th of June 2006 09:08:41 PM |
| - first of all, i am glad to read what you share with us. çok ama çok teşekkürler! thank you very muuuuuuuuch! @Nodir, i have just sent a pm to you, the university you talk about is Boğaziçi (Bosphorus) University which is one of the best universities in Turkiye. @Mery, you are welcome my friend. i am happy you enjoy with Turkish. @Daisy, we are not that excellent at English at all but i can say that we are hot-blooded people and have great hospitality ;) @ie, your post is so enjoyable! especially 4. sentence, hehe. hope you will have a chance to visit Turkiye sometime. anyone (who learning Turkish and) who wants to talk to me on msn, send me pm about it ;) please go on posting... hope Downie, Stéphane, Gijs and others will share their ideas and \"success\" stories with us :D | |
| alina | Friday 21st of July 2006 07:07:34 PM |
| - My turn. :) As I said, when I joined PB I\'ve never thought that I would get some basic in Turkish. Turkish forum is so well organized with a lot of games and informations. That made me dig through the threads :D Besides, my boyfriend studied Turkish during highschool but he didn\'t learn the language. One day I asked him a lot of things in Turkish and he found out that he still know basics in Turkish. So, how I\'m opened to any language I decided to learn some Turkish for him because I hope in this way he will learn again Turkish. But this time with me. ;) On the other hand I really want to visit Turkey and it will be a pleasure for me to speak the language. :) | |
| bluehipopotamo | Friday 21st of July 2006 07:28:28 PM |
| - i got a new job and a few turkish guys work there. they speak nearly perfect finnish and very good english but i still want to learn turkish because they (very rudely :p) speak turkish to each other even while i\'m around and i just *know* they\'re talking about me! ;) and i also want to visit turkey sometime in the near future, hopefully with one of the turkish guys :) | |
| stormgoblin | Saturday 22nd of July 2006 03:18:34 AM |
| - ok, well at first i was like why am i going to respond to this? but then i realized i had a mind sometimes. well, for starters, i\'m trying to figure out what my start is....i think what attracted me to the turkish language is: *it was unique, to me at least but at first i think it was because of the cultural legacy it was part of the region of whose music i was interested in (balkan), and yet it was not slavic or as widely popular as greek. *turkish is in another language family, altaic, but isn\'t so widely-recognized as japanese. it is a link to the ethnic realm of asia (and the psychology of the asian mind), which means *it is easily transferrable to several other countries, including azerbaycan, turkmenistan, kazakstan, and some others i guess :) *it represents a new way of thought, in comparison to indo-european languages. its almost like backwards for us or something.... *it is a cultural link to the islamic/arabic world. especially in these times, i find it should be important to maintain or institute progressive relations with this part of the world, in the future. i think some others with interest in arabic probably agree. *its a cultural hybrid! which is cool to me. it suggests new thought, and i find any non-standard mixture to be interesting. in my opinion it was the foreign blood of the turks which, with their new mindset, helped pose a unique challenge to enemies of the islamic empire, and strengthened its goal. additionally, i believe, it was the religiously apathetic and political attitude which the turks carried in order to promote the success of the ottoman empire. in other words, being foreigners, i think that they knew what they were after, and religious beliefs didn\'t slow them down. in a way, in modern times, i think that this becomes important to the level of religious objectivity and tolerance which i believe that turkish nation might possess. simply put, i also find it interesting to see how different ethnicities conjugate similar cultures, or interact with other ethnicities. of course i mean turkish and arabic blood, an asian interpretation of arabic culture. *and lastly, of course, but not the least, is the musical angle. i give credit to zappie i think for helping to promote turkish culture to me through the chat rooms. as i stated, it is considered balkan music, usually, but also because of turkey\'s influence in this region, i think it is worthwhile to examine its music in comparison to the rest of the balkan nations. its system of theory has in some ways, i think elaborated upon, or at least in its present state, seems a little more complicated than arabic theory. ok i think that\'s it. other than the reason why anyone might want to learn--if or when i should ever get too sick to eat in this country, knowing another language is like a good tool for prospective travellers. :) | |
| Yoak | Monday 31st of July 2006 11:07:24 PM |
| - In most of the German cities, there is a strong Turkish population. Here in Cologne, it is nearly 10%, I believe. Most of them speak German (more or less), so actually there’s no real need to learn Turkish. But then, when a language is spoken every day around you, you get curious about what is said. And Turkish, to me, sounds quite beautiful, too. And I know now that it is an extremely rich language offering many ways to express a certain thought. Of course, whether or not you hear much Turkish in Germany is still a matter of your surroudings: the places you haunt and the people you mix with, or the quarter or street where you live. Until about six years ago, I worked as a market seller, and many workmates there as well as most of our customers were of Turkish origin. That’s where I first felt a strong desire to learn Turkish. I started then, but within several months I did not reach a level to have a real conversation, and somehow I stopped studying. At least I could help with clothing sizes (for we were selling kids’ clothing) and I could quote prices in Turkish. Now I’ve started working at an internet callshop, and looking around on the internet, I stumbled about Phrasebase. I considered that a good occasion to revive my Turkish studies. I hope I will soon feel up to trying a little talk in Turkish… | |
| omersener | Thursday 03rd of August 2006 10:54:16 PM |
| Hi everyone - I just wanted to say hi to turkish learners, It is a great pleasure to see people together with the aim of learning turkish, I want to say thanks to Osman, as well, for opening up this topic. To the learners; I wish you great success in learning this beautiful language, which sounds so beautiful, the language of Yunus Emre and and Laedri (two poets who wrote in Turkish)and many more. | |
| yuugen | Friday 04th of August 2006 01:43:52 AM |
| - I like learning about different cultures but I never knew much about Turkey before. When I came to university I met a lot of Turkish people and some Uzbeks. This inspired me to learn more about Turkey and Central Asia. Since my school does not offer an Uzbek course, I am taking Turkish. I already study Japanese, which has a similar structure. Plus I want to be a mediator between my Armenian and Turkish colleagues. :) | |
| omersener | Tuesday 15th of August 2006 05:32:51 PM |
| wish you success... - this is good to hear yuugen. Hope you build lasting friendships as you master Japanese and Turkish! Be a mediator between Armenian and Turkish students, we need reconciliation and friendship more than anything. Başarılar, Ganbatte kudasai! | |
| colourmeke | Friday 20th of October 2006 04:52:59 PM |
| - I visit Turkey three or four times a year, and hopefully I\'ll be able to settle there within the next three years, so learning Turkish should ease my curiosity (or nosieness) about what the people around me are saying. | |
| livia_ro | Saturday 25th of November 2006 12:02:11 AM |
| - Hi! I\'m Livia from Romania.I visited Istanbul last summer and I think it\'s a great city:Di also like turkish music.i think these are the reasons for desiring learning turkish.i hope someone will help me!:D | |
| FaWzY | Monday 11th of December 2006 02:26:25 AM |
| - Cuz it\'s the language of my ancestors, I have Turkish/Ottoman roots 6 generations ago :D | |
| waratah | Saturday 16th of December 2006 09:00:59 AM |
| - Hello, I am new to this site and joined because I am planning to visit Turkey sometime in 2007. It would be great if I can somewhat interact with the locals in their language. That said, I also feel that Turkish is a beautiful language and the people are always so friendly and warm. Osman, I have read your postings and found the lessons helpful. Thank you for the effort | |
| FaWzY | Saturday 16th of December 2006 09:31:46 AM |
| - Oops, made a mistake in my post, I\'m a 4th generation Turk, not 6th :D And yeah, I\'m planning on visiting Istanbul by the summer of 2007 | |
| farzinf | Friday 29th of December 2006 02:50:27 PM |
| - the Turkish language is the best | |
| MoonlitShadows | Wednesday 10th of January 2007 12:00:02 AM |
| - I\'m interested in learning Turkish because I met a friend on this site who\'s from Turkey. He writes to me in English, and I don\'t think it\'s fair, so I thought I\'d attempt to learn the language. Wish me luck!!! | |
| Osman | Wednesday 10th of January 2007 03:06:40 AM |
| - Good Luck! İyi Şanslar! :) | |
| Vasiliki | Saturday 13th of January 2007 10:19:18 PM |
| - Why I like Turkish and why I decided to learn it... Ofcourse I\'ve thought of this question millions of times. And I came to the conclusion I\'m in love with it. And when you are in love with something/someone you can\'t explain why. I could say, for example, that Turkish has an exotic sound, but this is not something unique to turkish. One thing I do know is that it\'s a difficult language to learn that\'s why I don\'t get bored with it. As for the techniques I used to learn the language...I really thought I could finally understand the structure of the language when I started studying the different types of gerund (such as -erek, -ip, -meden, -dikten sonra....) So, I believe one should insist on this part of the grammar. | |
| thanchanok | Friday 19th of January 2007 01:25:18 PM |
| - I am Bew from Thailand. Your topic is very interesting. When I was in high-school, I\'d never known where Turkey is situated in the world, so I didn\'t know how difficut Turkish language is. Your language has started attracting my attention because I found the nice guy on the internet and he becomes my boyfriend now and husband in the near future. He can\'t speak English well, so it is the reason I want to learn it. It will be a lot better if I can communicate with him and his family memebers in Turkish. Moreover, I\'ve fallen in love with Turkish as soon as I heard him talking to his mother on the phone since its sound is really exoctic. Although I can\'t understand what he said, I love listening to his Turkish conversation. However, it is too difficult to learn it via the internet. I wish to go to Turkey someday to practice it. | |
| Hispanish | Sunday 28th of January 2007 10:05:23 PM |
| - I am learning Turkish because it\'s a great (but difficult) language. But here in Spain you haven\'t got many resources :(... No books, no teachers :( | |
| farzinf | Saturday 10th of February 2007 05:39:16 AM |
| Turkish keyboard layout - I have 2 concerns about the turkish and azeri keyboard layout. First thing is the Ğ, Ü, Ş, Ö, Ç, I, and İ, are NOT located at the same places for both keyboard layouts which makes it very confusing for someone when switching between the two. Azeri has one additional letter - Ə. They put this where the İ key is on the turkish keyboard. but if they simply put it where the Ü is on the turkish keyboard and used \"W\" for their Ü that could have made it much better. My second beef is with the turkish keyboard. If you haven\'t already noticed, pressing Ctrl then Alt, and holding them down while pressing the \"I\" key it will produce a \"İ\" for you. I think they should have dont this for alot of the other keys as well. for example Ctrl+Alt+G should be a Ğ, and Ctrl+Alt+O should be a Ö, and so on. do you guys understand what I mean? | |
| farzinf | Saturday 10th of February 2007 05:42:30 AM |
| - Oh by the way guys i just discovered this if you\'d like to alter/make a new keyboard layout you can do so with Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx ;) | |
| Osman | Monday 12th of February 2007 02:05:33 AM |
| - Nice link Farzin. i get what you say but don\'t know if related people hear us :) Those keyboards are difficult to deal with when you want to use them in another language. You may find this useful ;) http://www.lingulangu.org/?p=32 | |
| farzinf | Monday 12th of February 2007 06:17:00 AM |
| - oh nice this is from your site. lol you have choice Azeri Cryllic though and most azeri writing is now latin. I also thınk you should have chosen the \"Turkish Q\" keyboard layout rather then the \"Turkish F\" keyboard layout regardless a good resource, thanks. | |
| Osman | Friday 16th of February 2007 03:09:58 PM |
| - I have Turkish Q here :D Although \'Turkish F\' is said to be better while writing Turkish, i won\'t use it. Simply because i also use my keyboard to write in English and Spanish. :) | |
| farzinf | Saturday 17th of February 2007 12:21:48 AM |
| - yes I also use Turkish Q cheers, :) | |
| patycik | Sunday 11th of March 2007 02:44:47 PM |
| - turkce ispanyolcadan daha guzel turkce inglizcedan daha guzel turkce italyancadan daha guzel turkce en daha guzel dil!!!!!!!! turkiyeyi, turkleri ve turkceyi cooook seviyorum!!!!! en buyuk turkiye! | |
| Osman | Sunday 11th of March 2007 03:45:08 PM |
| - Paty, ispanyolca da çok güzel :D Türkiye\'ye bekleriz seni! :) | |
| farzinf | Thursday 15th of March 2007 01:16:18 AM |
| - [b]\"Arapça bir dil, Farsça bir şekerleme, Türkçe ise bir sanattır.\"[/b] [i]- Eski Farsca Atasözü[/i] [b]\"Arabic is a language, Persian is a sweetmeat, and Turkish is an art.\"[/b] [i]- Old Persian Proverb[/i] | |
| FaWzY | Thursday 15th of March 2007 01:46:29 AM |
| - lol, I can\'t tell you how wrong this proverb is, on many levels too, Arabic is the only language in the world that was used as an art itself starting with the fonts, the poetry, the nathr,.... You guys didn\'t study the history of the Arabic language (especially the poetry) that\'s why you won\'t understand what I mean, never mind :D | |
| Osman | Thursday 15th of March 2007 01:56:02 AM |
| - Maybe the proverb should be vice-versa FOR TODAY. Türkçe bir dil, Farsça bir şekerleme, Arapça ise bir sanattır. But, Turkish was quite rich during the Ottoman Era. You can check poetries and poets of that time. They were better than Persian and Arabic counterparts ;) But today, i can easily say that Arabic (high Arabic?) is one of the languages i admire and respect. :) | |
| FaWzY | Thursday 15th of March 2007 03:31:34 AM |
| - I studied briefly literature and poetry during the Ottoman period, and of course it was the best at that time, the strong Arabic literature I\'m talking about was before that, long before from let\'s say 500 A.D. till 1300 A.D. short after the Crusades, after that it was the flourish of the Persian and later the Ottoman literature and poetry. I think you means the Standard Arabic which we call \"Fus7ah\" [size=3]العربية الفصحة[/size], and it sure is one of the most beautiful languages, too bad it\'s no longer spoken almost at all. Still I love the Turkish language, and that\'s why I\'m studying it, although the Ottoman Turkish sounded more elegant. :D | |
| patycik | Thursday 15th of March 2007 01:49:07 PM |
| big up arabic lang - arabic is a wonderful language !!! i luv turkish n i luv turkey , so for me there will never b no language better than turkish but i gota say arabic is da 2nd best language in da whole world ( to me ), in fact after im done wiv turkish i wud loveeeeeeeee to learn arabic it sounds soo beautiful , n soo many ppl speak it, it wud b a pleasure to learn it.!!!amazin languagee!! im big fan ov arabic language! | |
| FaWzY | Thursday 15th of March 2007 10:38:10 PM |
| - Well Paty, I gotta tell you, you\'re aiming high, learning Arabic is as hard as learning Chinese for those who don\'t speak a Semetic language, so you gotta know you\'re up for a challenge, but if you are determent, you could do it. :) What makes learning Turkish so easy for me is the massive loaned vocabulary from Arabic, every text I read has at least 30% Arabic vocabulary in it, that\'d help you if you try to learn Arabic after Turkish too. :) | |
| Osman | Friday 16th of March 2007 01:19:27 AM |
| - I want to learn Arabic too!! Yeppie!! :) | |
| farzinf | Friday 16th of March 2007 03:50:11 AM |
| - sorry if i offended you fawzy. :D. I wonder who said | |
| FaWzY | Friday 16th of March 2007 07:11:57 AM |
| - [quote][i]Originally posted by farzinf[/i] sorry if i offended you fawzy. :D.[/quote] You totally got me wrong man, I was not offended at all, I was just telling you guys facts that you probably have never heard of (I love that part of knowledge plus my grandfather had a whole library full of old books about such issues :D) Plus you know, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, like I for one love the French language and find it very beautiful, others find it stupid and insult them for talking with so much nasal voices, on the other hand I find the German language extremely ineligible and to me it sounds like someone talking with food in his/her mouth. :S On another note, I watched a Turkish/Egyptian movie about a stolen mummy, I hardly caught a single word from what they were saying, turns out Turkish is the only language that I know of that\'s easier to comprehend in songs than in normal life. :D | |
| alghuraab | Monday 19th of March 2007 01:35:56 PM |
| - my grandparents, on my mother`s side speak azeri, along with my native language, which is armenian)))i always liked the way azeri sounded, so i decided , finally, to start learning, the turkish language, which is , to my mind, the HEAD of all turkic languages, plus it sounds prettier then azeri.plus, turkish has many armenianisms ( and/or vice versa) which ,hopefully, help me in learning this fascinating language. | |
| Osman | Monday 19th of March 2007 02:10:04 PM |
| - Nice to hear that you are an Armenian and learn Turkish ;) I wish there would be more persons like you. I would like to visit Armenia one day and during my visit, i would like to speak in Armenian :) Well, there aren\'t any problems between people, i think. | |
| alghuraab | Monday 19th of March 2007 02:29:15 PM |
| - actually i was born to an armenian mother and an arab father-two totally different religious and maybe cultures, i and my sister were always brought up to respect everybody, no matter what their nationality, believes, etc are.unfortunately, some part of my armenian family doesnt understand my \"love\" twards this language(turkish), also 90 times out of 100 i am being blocked by turkish people on turkish chat rooms, after they find out i have something to do with armenians. i am , actually , very glad OSMAN, that you are openminded, educated young man, u are welcome to yerevan anytime))) as for me, i am living my life to the fullest, and dont have time for such nonsense as hatred))))))) teshekkurler,kardesh))))))))))))) | |
| farzinf | Monday 19th of March 2007 03:30:04 PM |
| - alghuraab, what you wrote was very touching. And I\'m so glad you\'ve joined us on this forum. I myself, I am azeri born in Iran. My parents\' attitude towards Armenians is also ignorant, but I never let that affect me. I was once interested in Armenian language, and it was interesting to me how the accent spoken in the Black Sea region of Turkey and the karabakh region of Azerbaijan is very similar to the Tabriz accent in Iran. Also, I\'ve read that Tabriz was the capital Armenia in the third century. Is this really true? | |
| KIJO | Thursday 03rd of May 2007 02:02:42 PM |
| Hi all ! - Hi,I started learn Turkish maybe 2-3 weeks ago,now I know about 400 words. Allmost 100 verbs,maybe 80...and 300 nouns,adverbs ect... If someone can help me learn Turkish I\'ll be really glad :) I know In normal level Russian,Hebrew little English. My skype:Titus Aurelius Fulvius Boionius Arrius Antoninus Pius or write kunsmemokars. My ICQ:Titus Aurelius. | |
| alghuraab | Monday 07th of May 2007 01:41:26 PM |
| - FARZINF, i never really heard about tabriz, sorry.just wanna say thank u guys for being so cool!!! | |
| Avaldi | Thursday 11th of October 2007 12:31:24 AM |
| - Hello! I learn Turkish because it\'s the most melodic language in the world and because it sounds so nice in the music. PS: alghuraab, I am with you ;) | |
