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| Templar | Wednesday 07th of June 2006 03:08:49 AM |
| Turkish Game 11: Active/Passive Voice - I found some information about active-passive voice in turkish... All turkish verbs are in this form below; rootmek/mak you omit the infinitive suffix which is mek/mak and you add l or n, and then the personal suffixes. Note: if the root finishes with a vowel we directly add thse letters (n/l), but if it finishes with a consonant, then we add an i ex: aramak (seek) ben aranıyorum (i am being seeked) ex:çalmak (to steal) çalındı -> it was stolen ex: Yazmak ( to write) Yazıldılar -> they were written After these rules let\'s start a new game. everyone shall give a verb and then will write a pronoun in brackets then the person below him is going to conjugate that verb in Passive according to pronoun given. My verb : Kesmek ( O /past tense) | |
| Osman | Wednesday 07th of June 2006 03:47:50 PM |
| - :) BRAVO STéPHANE BRAVO! :) kesildi. (it is cut) i added \"il\" because it ended with consonant when we throw mek,mak ;) next, okumak. (they/present tense) | |
| Templar | Wednesday 07th of June 2006 10:03:42 PM |
| - lol thx Osman :D oknuyorlar. (they are being read) Next, Dövmek (to beat) | |
| Osman | Friday 09th of June 2006 03:19:09 AM |
| - okunuyorlar ;) dövülmek [to be beaten] hayal etmek (to dream) | |
| Templar | Friday 09th of June 2006 10:48:51 PM |
| - hayal edilmek correct this one? :D satmak ( to sell) | |
| Osman | Saturday 10th of June 2006 04:07:14 AM |
| - dont make me correct you :D , you go well! satılmak düşünmek ( to think ) | |
| Templar | Saturday 10th of June 2006 09:27:19 PM |
| - düşünülmek Next; saymak (to count) | |
| Osman | Monday 12th of June 2006 02:35:51 PM |
| - sayılmak next, karar vermek ( to decide ) **be careful** :D | |
| stormgoblin | Wednesday 21st of June 2006 02:30:04 AM |
| - karar verilmek? to be given a decision. | |
| Templar | Wednesday 21st of June 2006 03:55:37 AM |
| - well a new verb? | |
| stormgoblin | Wednesday 21st of June 2006 05:45:31 AM |
| - oh crap, yeah ok sorry i did it again :) kusmak --to vomit sonraki... | |
| Osman | Thursday 22nd of June 2006 10:33:09 AM |
| - very good Peter! kusulmak - to be vomitted [double t, no?] sonraki fiil (next verb); hatırlamak - remember | |
| stormgoblin | Thursday 22nd of June 2006 01:06:42 PM |
| - thanks, osman! by the way, its better to say \"to be vomited upon\" --actually, after thinking about it, i think it\'s a single t, but i\'m not sure. :) ok i just checked on spell check, its single t. i think in general it helps to understand that doubling of the consonant occurs in order to avoid an open vowel sound, like \"file\" becomes \"filed\" if it were doubled, the \"i\" would sound like turkish ı. and of course that word is \"filled\" from \"fill.\" you might think it would make sense so vomited didn\'t sound like \"vo-might-ed\" but apparently its unnecessary to double the consonant here. ok sonraki fiil, hatırlanmak? to be remembered. i\'m guessing here of course, that its irregular. by the way thanks for clarifying, i\'m guessing with usages like sonraki, glad it makes sense. salaam me | |
| Osman | Friday 23rd of June 2006 02:30:23 AM |
| - nice things you wrote! thanks :) but where is the next verb? ;) i havent seen.. | |
| stormgoblin | Friday 23rd of June 2006 04:45:11 AM |
| - unutmak :) to forget | |
| Osman | Friday 23rd of June 2006 01:03:18 PM |
| - unutulmak :) unutulmak çok acıdır.. sonraki fiil; özlemek - to miss / i miss you - seni özlüyorum / | |
| daisyc | Saturday 24th of June 2006 12:51:40 AM |
| - Can I join??? :D seni özlüyorum too !:D Ok here comes this student with a lot of questions ;) Dünyaya bak! işte bir pb üyesi geliyor! This is a bit more difficult than other games but i like challenges :D:D ok özlemek = özle +N+ iyor +.... (for Passive Present Continuous ?) özleniyorum (I am being missed) özleniyorsun (you are being missed) özleniyor (Templar-Osman- Spike-my doggy- is being missed) özleniyoruz (we are being missed) özleniyorsunuz (you are being missed) özleniyorlar (they are being missed) and özle +N +di+ ... (for passive simple past) özlendim (I was missed) özlendin (you were missed) özlendi (she/he/it was missed) özlendik (we were missed) özlendiniz (you were missed) özlendiler (they were missed) Is that correct ?????? :) Wooooww I was missed by so many people that i already feel great !! don\'t you? next verb: bırakmak (leave) | |
| Osman | Saturday 24th of June 2006 03:07:33 AM |
| - first of all, i am sorry but that is not correct :) [quote][color=red]Verbs whose stem ends in -L[/color] When the verb stem ends in -L then the passive mood is formed by the addition -in (subject to vowel harmony) Active Mood Passive Mood delmek to pierce delinmek to be pierced bilmek to know bilinmek to be known almak to take alınmak to be taken bulmak to find bulunmak to be found -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [color=red]Verbs whose stem ends in a vowel[/color] When the verb stem ends in a vowel then the passive sign is simply -n Active Mood Passive Mood beklemek to wait/expect beklenmek to be waited for/expected kapamak to close kapanmak to be closed yemek to eat yenmek to be eaten [/quote] soon (in June) i will send some more grammar lessons. So things will be clearer ;) btw, is this an answer to you, Daisy? bırakılmak - to be left. next verb: duş almak [to take a shower] | |
| daisyc | Saturday 24th of June 2006 03:58:51 AM |
| - Teşeskkür ederim Osman !:D. if bırakmak turns to bırakılmak and unutmak turns to onutulmak I guess duş almak should turn to duş alınmak :D Anyways, I\'d have given a different answer for birakmak according to yr explanation :) so I\'d better keep reading more to see if i can figure out how this exactly works :D next verb: anlatmak (to explain ) | |
| Osman | Saturday 24th of June 2006 02:52:15 PM |
| - exactly :) ... just we need sometime ^^-^^ bırakmak - bırakılmak unutmak - unutulmak duş almak - duş alınmak anlatılmak [also açıklanmak] next verb: oynamak (to play) | |
| stormgoblin | Sunday 25th of June 2006 11:33:00 AM |
| - oynanmak? bu akşamda enteresan bir ezgi çalgıyla oynandı . ok if i\'m wrong this time its probably that\' i\'m trying to use with the musician to mean \"by the musician\" sonraki-- tutmak to hold back --usul tutmak: to play a rhythm. (keep time?) | |
| zappie | Sunday 25th of June 2006 07:09:32 PM |
| - Sorry Peter there is not such a phrasal verb. It is çalmak/çalınmak. I prefer saying \" ilginç \" rather than enteresan. The -de case is not used for the days and the periods of the day. (Bu akşam enteresan bir ezgi çalındı )In fact in spoken language \"they\" conjugation of the active voice is preferred to the passive voice. Especially if the action is conducted by a group of people in real. You have found an enteresan verb: tutmak. Both tutulmak and tutunmak forms are correct. In your case it is tutulmak. But both forms have very diverse meaning. Tutulmak 1. have a crush on smb.. be held. be taken. be at a premium. be in a request. make a hit. attack. attaint. catch on. come in. come up. drop. be enamored of. be enamoured of. go into. incur. indulge. smite. be smitten with. stiffen. be stuck. be stuck on. 2. click. to be caught. to be eclipsed. to have a cramp. to fall in love with. to be affected. to be held. to be eclipsed. to fall for. to fall/be in love with. to catch on. to click . to become stiff. to be stiff. to go down with sth. Tutunmak: 1. get a toe-hold. hold on to. cling. get a grip. hang on. catch. fasten on. 2. to hold . cling. to take hold. to get along well . to take hold . to hold out/on. to hang on. to endure. to catch on. to take on. to last. Here is your new verb: giymek ( i am not providing its meaning on purpose ;) ) | |
| daisyc | Sunday 25th of June 2006 09:43:04 PM |
| - giyilmek ????? :) (to wear ;)) next one: vermek (give) | |
| Osman | Monday 26th of June 2006 02:20:20 PM |
| - verilmek :) sonraki: nefret etmek | |
| daisyc | Monday 26th of June 2006 06:33:13 PM |
| - nefret etilmek ??? What does it mean? :) sonraki: söylemek (say) | |
| Osman | Monday 26th of June 2006 11:22:32 PM |
| - nefret edilmek , it is an exception. (i guess) [to be hated] :) söylenmek.. sonraki: öpmek ( to kiss ) | |
| daisyc | Monday 26th of June 2006 11:54:37 PM |
| - I\'m lucky mistakes are for free !! otherwise turkish language would cost me a fortune :D :D Don\'t forget Vowel harmony Daisy !!!! öpülmek ???? sonraki : bildirmek (inform) | |
| stormgoblin | Tuesday 27th of June 2006 06:14:03 AM |
| - the rule is that consonants become hard when combined i think, but at the end of a word they become hard, also. and so, the t in etmek softens because its being followed by a vowel? i think that is correct as a rule, but not sure. e.g. kitaba--to the book, kitap--the book, kitaplar--the books (hard vowel because its joined with l). bildirilmek? ok i just checked it on the dictionary :) sonraki--sulamak: to water, or irrigate a living creature. the slang translation is interesting for the passive :S peace, me | |
| daisyc | Wednesday 28th of June 2006 07:35:09 PM |
| - Thanks so much stormgoblin for explanation :D :D. Just let me re-read it and then most important let me try not to forget it !!:) sulanmak ? sonraki : beğenmek (admire):D hey a friend recommended this great place and it has a turkish dictionary so check it up: www.turkishinterpreter.co.uk | |
| ladysmyrna | Friday 30th of June 2006 01:59:19 AM |
| - beğenilmek! Daisy, u\'re really doing great :D *hugs* sonraki: dışlamak (to exclude, to externalize) [i]as Stormgoblin pointed out, sulanmak in slang means to hit on someone :p[/i] | |
| Osman | Friday 30th of June 2006 01:47:49 PM |
| - LOL Duygu! :D dışlanmak sonraki: hayran olmak (to admire) *close meaning with beğenmek* by the way, thanks lot for your lovely comments on my photosite, Duygu! çok saol, bitanesin ;) | |
| ladysmyrna | Friday 30th of June 2006 03:11:32 PM |
| - [i]rica ederim canım benim!!! :D[/i] hayran olunmak sonraki: düşünmek (to think) | |
| Osman | Friday 30th of June 2006 03:41:59 PM |
| - :) düşünülmek sonraki: karar vermek [to decide] | |
| Templar | Sunday 02nd of July 2006 04:51:34 PM |
| - Karar verilmek... götürmek | |
| ladysmyrna | Wednesday 05th of July 2006 10:07:33 PM |
| - götürülmek yazmak (to write) | |
| Osman | Thursday 06th of July 2006 01:55:39 AM |
| - yazılmak okumak (to read) | |
| ladysmyrna | Tuesday 11th of July 2006 11:06:00 PM |
| - okunmak getirmek (to bring) | |
| Osman | Thursday 13th of July 2006 03:14:53 AM |
| - getirilmek incitmek (to hurt) | |
